Supreme Court

floridays

Well-Known Member
The larger post was about the future impact a conservative SCOTUS could have on labor laws and workers rights . Not only could the overturn of such pro labor laws have a massive impact on brown shirt UPS box luggers think of it's potential impact on public employee unions and the APA.
Your larger post was GOP is anti union and that unions will be a future target with the addition of Trump appointments on the Supreme Court.
Anti-union.

Someone (maybe @vantexan? ) mentioned Obamas failure with the presidency, House and Senate and still the RLA exists. Not in those terms but it was their point.

By action, who has shown they are anti union?

By action, (don't use the fear tactic of perceived future Supreme Court decisions), what exactly did the dems do?
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
Your larger post was GOP is anti union and that unions will be a future target with the addition of Trump appointments on the Supreme Court.
Anti-union.

Someone (maybe @vantexan? ) mentioned Obamas failure with the presidency, House and Senate and still the RLA exists. Not in those terms but it was their point.

By action, who has shown they are anti union?

By action, (don't use the fear tactic of perceived future Supreme Court decisions), what exactly did the dems do?
How was Obama supposed to get a pro business piece of legislation such a the RLA revised or revoked when he was a minority president for 6 of his 8 years in the WH?
 

Box Ox

Well-Known Member
How was Obama supposed to get a pro business piece of legislation such a the RLA revised or revoked when he was a minority president for 6 of his 8 years in the WH?

The Republicans might argue that none of Obama’s proposed legislation was pro-business (full corporate giveaway) anyway.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
The larger post was about the future impact a conservative SCOTUS could have on labor laws and workers rights . Not only could the overturn of such pro labor laws have a massive impact on brown shirt UPS box luggers think of it's potential impact on public employee unions and the APA.
You wring your hands a lot. Should wait until it happens. A lot less stress.
 

MrFedEx

Engorged Member
How was Obama supposed to get a pro business piece of legislation such a the RLA revised or revoked when he was a minority president for 6 of his 8 years in the WH?

The RLA is a Republican gift to anti-union companies like XPO and FedEx, to name just 2 of many. It's amazing so many UPS people love being union, and also support Republicans.

If they could do away with collective bargaining and have every state RTW, they'd do it in a heartbeat because the GOP isn't about workers, it's about the 1% that are owners or major investors.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
The RLA is a Republican gift to anti-union companies like XPO and FedEx, to name just 2 of many. It's amazing so many UPS people love being union, and also support Republicans.

If they could do away with collective bargaining and have every state RTW, they'd do it in a heartbeat because the GOP isn't about workers, it's about the 1% that are owners or major investors.
If that were to happen then I would love to see the reaction from conservative UPS brown shirts when they discover what their labor is worth in the real economy driven and controlled entirely by market forces not the sheltered little world they currently live in. Remember all that stands between them and the real world economy is a piece of ageing New Deal legislation .
 

Wally

BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
The RLA is a Republican gift to anti-union companies like XPO and FedEx, to name just 2 of many. It's amazing so many UPS people love being union, and also support Republicans.

If they could do away with collective bargaining and have every state RTW, they'd do it in a heartbeat because the GOP isn't about workers, it's about the 1% that are owners or major investors.
FedEx workers voted no to union.
 

Wally

BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
How was Obama supposed to get a pro business piece of legislation such a the RLA revised or revoked when he was a minority president for 6 of his 8 years in the WH?
By doing it right away in the first year instead of socializing medicine.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
By doing it right away in the first year instead of socializing medicine.
The first two years of the Obama administration were consumed by two critical matters. Coping with the Bush recession (remember that so called "winning?) and trying to pass healthcare legislation in response to rural hospitals dropping like flies as a result of getting stiffed with millions in unpaid bills. That combined with losing upward of 700,000 jobs a month while bailing out banks and car companies labor law legislation invariably will take a back seat.
 

Wally

BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
The first two years of the Obama administration were consumed by two critical matters. Coping with the Bush recession (remember that so called "winning?) and trying to pass healthcare legislation in response to rural hospitals dropping like flies as a result of getting stiffed with millions in unpaid bills. That combined with losing upward of 700,000 jobs a month while bailing out banks and car companies labor law legislation invariably will take a back seat.
Lets face it, the Obama years were 8 long years of failure.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
I believe that historians and political scholars who have higher levels of education than you and I will disagree. BTW DJIA 3/9/ 2009....6547 . 11/07/2016....18259 S&P 500 on 3/09/09....676. 11/07/2016.....2132. Those numbers clearly contradict your claims of failure. And don't try to say that it's "fake news" because the SEC sees to it that it's not.
 

Wally

BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
I believe that historians and political scholars who have higher levels of education than you and I will disagree. BTW DJIA 3/9/ 2009....6547 . 11/07/2016....18259 S&P 500 on 3/09/09....676. 11/07/2016.....2132. Those numbers clearly contradict your claims of failure. And don't try to say that it's "fake news" because the SEC sees to it that it's not.
They helped Wall Street but not Main Street. No economic growth for two terms. Total failure.
 
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