Surepost violations already started.

[Sortisle]

Many drivers are finding businesses, multiple pkg stops and over weight/sized being diverted to the post office this week.

The postmasters in multiple locations have confirmed they got communication from UPS that they were sending the bulk of their surepost to the p.o. effective Tuesday.

How are you all dealing with this and is your local responding with real help?

 

[BigUnionGuy]

How are you all dealing with this and is your local responding with real help?

If thats the case....

What are you willing to do ??


Or, what have you done ??



-Bug-

 

[Major English]

If thats the case....

What are you willing to do ??


Or, what have you done ??



-Bug-

Are "BigUnionGuy"s not able to intervene without the "involvement" of their constituents?

What a convenient response.

 

[Sortisle]

If thats the case....

What are you willing to do ??


Or, what have you done ??



-Bug-

We don't know what to do. We are asking for remedies or help.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Are "BigUnionGuy"s not able to intervene without the "involvement" of their constituents?

Are members (so chicken)....

They can't file a grievance, of their own ??


Please spare me.... the whinny "I don't want the company to dislike me" speech.



-Bug-

 

[anHOURover]

If thats the case....

What are you willing to do ??


Or, what have you done ??



-Bug-

BUG! STILL out of touch with the working man! hofficer! can't relate to the racial makeup of todays teamsters!
FACT FACT

 

[anHOURover]

Are "BigUnionGuy"s not able to intervene without the "involvement" of their constituents?

What a convenient response.

bug only care about golfing and producing sham contracts!
FACT

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

I've been delivering a whole lot of single surepost packages the last two weeks. I keep looking for that second package only to figure out that the stop is already zeroed out.

 

[Brown Spider]

Are members (so chicken)....

They can't file a grievance, of their own ??


Please spare me.... the whinny "I don't want the company to dislike me" speech.



-Bug-

Quite the sense of entitlement you've got there, Bug. Would it be more appropriate for those who pay your salary to request a formal audience? It might help if you would keep in mind that those "members (so chicken)" elected you to represent them.

BTW...the Royal Teamsters will meet in the ballroom for cocktails at 4:00 promptly...Proper attire is required...please show your sense of entitlement at the door.

 

[Major English]

Are members (so chicken)....

They can't file a grievance, of their own ??


Please spare me.... the whinny "I don't want the company to dislike me" speech.



-Bug-

The Company already dislikes me.
Are you "so chicken" to not stand up for the members who make you aware of a problem???...

....or are you afraid to lose your "quid pro quo" relationship that you have so painstakingly developed over the years?

What a "convenient excuse"....that we are completely sick of.
Step up, or step off.

 

[Bubblehead]

The Company already dislikes me.
Are you "so chicken" to not stand up for the members who make you aware of a problem???...

....or are you afraid to lose your "quid pro quo" relationship that you have so painstakingly developed over the years?

What a "convenient excuse" that is that we are completely sick of.
Step up, or step off.

I agree.

These are the same guys who tell me, as a steward, that I can't file for "all affected members"



~Bbbl~™

 

[Sortisle]

I've been delivering a whole lot of single surepost packages the last two weeks. I keep looking for that second package only to figure out that the stop is already zeroed out.

Looks like the second ups packages never arrived when the surepost packages were held to pair with them. Now some places are turning off the redirect systems and not holding anything. If drivers and decap employees don't watch the final mile addresses for businesses, etc or multiple package stops they're going to be subcontracted. Bonus centers will lose easy pieces that will reduce their "planned day" thus lose bonus money. It's theft because it's breaking our contract. The collision is disgusting.​

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

If thats the case....

What are you willing to do ??


Or, what have you done ??



-Bug-

What would you like or suggest that he do?

Surepost is processed as part of the preload so diverting them after the preload is wrapped just ain't gonna happen.

Your disconnect to reality is amusing.

 

[brownmonster]

25% of my packages are diverted surepost. Fun digging for 5 Kohls bags at every stop.

 

[Inthegame]

What would you like or suggest that he do?

I'm suspecting BUG would want the member to file a grievance under NM Art 26 Sec 4, or at minimum inform the local of the violation with some factual information.

 

[Inthegame]

Your disconnect to reality is amusing.

And you delusionally think a local union official can somehow stop all contract violations without membership involvement? If so you're not the guy to question someone else's reality.

 

[FrigidFTSup]

Now some places are turning off the redirect systems and not holding anything.

IE does that, not done at the local level

 

[Sortisle]

IE does that, not done at the local level

But even if they don't turn off the redirect function there are many other multiple package stops that are sliding through and businesses that your diad board will lockout the driver from driver releasing it because the system knows that it is commercial but yet sends those packages directly to the post office for final mile delivery.
As smart as our technology is I'm sure that Ie can probably factor in route levels and stops per hour and come up with maximums for x amount of drivers. There's years of History to draw from.

 

[Bubblehead]

But even if they don't turn off the redirect function there are many other multiple package stops that are sliding through and businesses that your diad board will lockout the driver from driver releasing it because the system knows that it is commercial but yet sends those packages directly to the post office for final mile delivery.
As smart as our technology is I'm sure that Ie can probably factor in route levels and stops per hour and come up with maximums for x amount of drivers. There's years of History to draw from.

I don't know, they still claim that "the system" can only compute driver helper allowances in whole hours?

Seems like "the system" is only as sophisticated as they need it to be, when they want it to be "sophisticated".

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

You shouldn't release any packages at businesses regardless of service level.