wkmac
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Every time I hear it said that another Middle East leader needs to go, I think back to a 2007' speech given by General Wesley Clark.
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Every time I hear it said that another Middle East leader needs to go, I think back to a 2007' speech given by General Wesley Clark.
MAKAVELI
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You might want to take up golfing, bingo or just getting stoned on the beach Van. You got way too much time on your hands to be thinking up this kind of stuff.
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wkmac
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So he gets his news via the latest theatrical release?
Catatonic
Nine Lives
Hamilton
MAKAVELI
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More like Breibart.
Catatonic
Nine Lives
Breitbart has been turned into a movie/play?
MAKAVELI
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It's always been theatrical.
wkmac
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It's always been theatrical.
Dude, you just grossly insulted all things theatrical!
Catatonic
Nine Lives
You guys give me a reason to get up in the morning!
wkmac
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You guys give me a reason to get up in the morning!
Sounds like you don't have much of a life then.
Sure do. My view of the Left was formed by watching "Alien." Sorry, couldn't resist!
And yet you spend your time reading my posts...hmmmm.
Actually have never read that website.
wkmac
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I like to torture myself to see how far my tolerance for pain can go.
So that's why you voted for Hillary!
wkmac
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So that's why you voted for Hillary!
If it makes you feel better.
newfie
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So that's why you voted for Hillary!
clearly not. theres a faction that never votes for any but the most obscure candidates so they can then brag that they did not vote for whomever is in power. Thank god for those few or Trump may have lost .
wkmac
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Secretary of Defense Mattis claims the Tomahawk strike took out about 20% of the Syrian operational aircraft. I'm going on the assumption this means military aircraft and that the only target struck was the Shayrat Air Base. This doesn't count the Tomahawks that totally missed the target and hit elsewhere. Specific numbers given were that 20 operational planes were destroyed on the ground during the strike. In 2011' it was reported that Syria had the following aircraft inventory in their Air Force.
575 fixed-wing aircraft:
Combat/reconnaissance/OCU aircraft: 461
Training aircraft: 76
Transport aircraft: 26
191 rotary-wing aircraft:
Attack helicopters: 71
Armed transport/utility helicopters: 120
source: Center for Strategic and International Studies
CNN sourcing IHS Jane's Defense Analysts states the following: "Defense analysts IHS Jane's estimate the Syrian airforce has about 262 strike aircraft, although the company admits this may be an imperfect number due to the ongoing war."
Using the lower number from IHS Jane, how does Mattis take 20 destroyed aircraft and come up with the 20% number? At best 10% seems more proper here. Going to google earth and seeing a shot of the Shayrat Base with its hardened bunkers, 20 aircraft taken out seems plausible looking at the image but this doesn't equate to 20% of the Syrian Air Force. Did Mattis misspeak or make a math mistake which can happen or was he deliberately and intended to twist numbers for the sake of political PR?
575 fixed-wing aircraft:
Combat/reconnaissance/OCU aircraft: 461
Training aircraft: 76
Transport aircraft: 26
191 rotary-wing aircraft:
Attack helicopters: 71
Armed transport/utility helicopters: 120
source: Center for Strategic and International Studies
CNN sourcing IHS Jane's Defense Analysts states the following: "Defense analysts IHS Jane's estimate the Syrian airforce has about 262 strike aircraft, although the company admits this may be an imperfect number due to the ongoing war."
Using the lower number from IHS Jane, how does Mattis take 20 destroyed aircraft and come up with the 20% number? At best 10% seems more proper here. Going to google earth and seeing a shot of the Shayrat Base with its hardened bunkers, 20 aircraft taken out seems plausible looking at the image but this doesn't equate to 20% of the Syrian Air Force. Did Mattis misspeak or make a math mistake which can happen or was he deliberately and intended to twist numbers for the sake of political PR?
