Teamster Buyout?

[tourists24]

The buyout offer is over guys. Get back to work.

Now @IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U will never retire

 

[Non liberal]

The buyout offer is over guys. Get back to work.

I’m still holding out for my 1 million dollars

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Now @IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U will never retire

And miss all of this fun?

 

[P£INinY0uR***UnionGuy8564]

UPS Violates Teamsters National Contract With Plan for Buyouts

(WASHINGTON) – United Parcel Service (UPS) is expected to unveil an illegal plan later this month to buyout full-time employees represented by the Teamst

teamster.org

Get out you old s

If people wanna take the buy out then who ing cares. Would be good for people who have one foot out the door anyway.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

If people wanna take the buy out then who ing cares. Would be good for people who have one foot out the door anyway.

It would be even better for the.low seniority drivers when the company cuts back on Amazon

 

[P£INinY0uR***UnionGuy8564]

It would be even better for the.low seniority drivers when the company cuts back on Amazon

See... Everybody gets some cash.

 

[tourists24]

If people wanna take the buy out then who ing cares. Would be good for people who have one foot out the door anyway.

It all comes down to UPS did not come to the Teamsters to negotiate the buyout options...... it's why there is a contract in place and language to cover such things

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

It all comes down to UPS did not come to the Teamsters to negotiate the buyout options...... it's why there is a contract in place and language to cover such things

Also SOB declined an offer to sit down over this matter.

 

[P£INinY0uR***UnionGuy8564]

It all comes down to UPS did not come to the Teamsters to negotiate the buyout options...... it's why there is a contract in place and language to cover such things

But is there anything against a buyout in the contract? I'm asking because I legit don't know.

 

[tourists24]

But is there anything against a buyout in the contract? I'm asking because I legit don't know.

I suppose there could be a buyout take place, but when UPS decides to do it unilaterally they are probably in violation of Article 6 in the national agreement. Had they come to the IBT and negotiated the details then maybe something could be agreed upon.

ARTICLE 6.
Section 1. Extra Contract Agreements
Except as may be otherwise provided in this Agreement, the Em-
ployer agrees not to enter into, or attempt to enter into, any agree-
ment or contract with its employees, either individually or collec-
tively, or to require or attempt to require employees to sign any
document, either individually or collectively, which in any way
conflicts with the provisions of this Agreement. Any such Agree-
ment or document shall be null and void. Any such agreement or
document may not be placed in an employee’s file or used by the
Employer as a basis for discipline or used in connection with any
disciplinary proceeding, nor may any such agreement or document
nor the contents thereof be divulged to any person or entity.
In addition, the Company will not discipline an employee for refus-
ing to sign any Company form related to the principle of a fair day’s
work unless the signing is required by law or by this Agreement.

 

[tourists24]

Also SOB declined an offer to sit down over this matter.

which one? Tome or Obrien? or both?

 

[BadIdeaGuy]

I suppose there could be a buyout take place, but when UPS decides to do it unilaterally they are probably in violation of Article 6 in the national agreement. Had they come to the IBT and negotiated the details then maybe something could be agreed upon.

ARTICLE 6.
Section 1. Extra Contract Agreements
Except as may be otherwise provided in this Agreement, the Em-
ployer agrees not to enter into, or attempt to enter into, any agree-
ment or contract with its employees, either individually or collec-
tively, or to require or attempt to require employees to sign any
document, either individually or collectively, which in any way
conflicts with the provisions of this Agreement. Any such Agree-
ment or document shall be null and void. Any such agreement or
document may not be placed in an employee’s file or used by the
Employer as a basis for discipline or used in connection with any
disciplinary proceeding, nor may any such agreement or document
nor the contents thereof be divulged to any person or entity.
In addition, the Company will not discipline an employee for refus-
ing to sign any Company form related to the principle of a fair day’s
work unless the signing is required by law or by this Agreement.

It suprised me that Sean didn't go that route immediately.

No real legal threats, and no strike threats. If this was as huge of a violation of the contract as they're acting like, I would have figured they'd be pulling out the real threats. Not just individual grievances.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

which one? Tome or Obrien? or both?

Sean.

 

[tourists24]

It suprised me that Sean didn't go that route immediately.

No real legal threats, and no strike threats. If this was as huge of a violation of the contract as they're acting like, I would have figured they'd be pulling out the real threats. Not just individual grievances.

Had UPS continued on with the offers, I think the IBT would've headed in that direction (but who knows for sure). If you go back to Obrien's video one of the first things he brought up was the contractual violation. I was a little confused as to why he went on to bring up the grievance route though

 

[tourists24]

Sean.

I would guess then that any buyout option would be a no go from the Teamsters from the start.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I would guess then that any buyout option would be a no go from the Teamsters from the start.

Because it would be a huge loss of revenue for them.

 

[tourists24]

Because it would be a huge loss of revenue for them.

short term maybe. I tend to think of what happens after that buyout. Let's say your center had 2 people take the offer; what happens now when the third guy who is also near retirement gets shafted? Now multiply that by thousands in other places. It becomes a slippery slope.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

short term maybe. I tend to think of what happens after that buyout. Let's say your center had 2 people take the offer; what happens now when the third guy who is also near retirement gets shafted? Now multiply that by thousands in other places. It becomes a slippery slope.

Well I guess that's why they are offering it to everyone

That way they can say you didn't have the opportunity .

 

[P£INinY0uR***UnionGuy8564]

I suppose there could be a buyout take place, but when UPS decides to do it unilaterally they are probably in violation of Article 6 in the national agreement. Had they come to the IBT and negotiated the details then maybe something could be agreed upon.

ARTICLE 6.
Section 1. Extra Contract Agreements
Except as may be otherwise provided in this Agreement, the Em-
ployer agrees not to enter into, or attempt to enter into, any agree-
ment or contract with its employees, either individually or collec-
tively, or to require or attempt to require employees to sign any
document, either individually or collectively, which in any way
conflicts with the provisions of this Agreement. Any such Agree-
ment or document shall be null and void. Any such agreement or
document may not be placed in an employee’s file or used by the
Employer as a basis for discipline or used in connection with any
disciplinary proceeding, nor may any such agreement or document
nor the contents thereof be divulged to any person or entity.
In addition, the Company will not discipline an employee for refus-
ing to sign any Company form related to the principle of a fair day’s
work unless the signing is required by law or by this Agreement.

This could potentially apply but I think it mainly has to do with discipline.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

short term maybe. I tend to think of what happens after that buyout. Let's say your center had 2 people take the offer; what happens now when the third guy who is also near retirement gets shafted? Now multiply that by thousands in other places. It becomes a slippery slope.

Another example is the Central States pension.
They are offering you an extra $1000 a month as long as you have a certain amount of years and age, just as long as your reture during this contract.

Is that fair to anyone else who retires after that date and doesn't get that money?


Sounds like a buyout to me