The only reason the raises look better is because they are not putting money into the retirement plans
It's all smoking letters it's a big freaking joke
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It's all smoking letters it's a big freaking joke
upschuck
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Where's Hoffa when you need him?
Hopefully dead
Just A UPS Guy
Bully.
I didn't realize how many regions were getting the shaft on the pension issue. When I saw the UPS-IBT increases, I thought we were all gonna be in good shape, I didn't think they took all of ours away to fund everything else.
Pullman Brown
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I have argued from the beginning that the full-timers should get the biggest part of the pie and still believe that. The value of our labor is more than part-timers. It’s like an athletic contract. You give the best contract to the moneymakers! I’ll come in and load my own truck!
This contract is falling apart really fast
Just A UPS Guy
Bully.
Hope these PTers don't get too excited over these phat ass raises, even if it passes, some supplements are gonna hold this up for a loooooong time.
Pullman Brown
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9.5 language for cover drivers is going to be a problem. They will just move people around and play games so they can’t file or make it harder.
Lots of loopholes everywhere
Appvol
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What changed on it. At my center if a cover driver worked 3 days over 9/5 even if they were on different routes for the week we could still file 9/5 grievances.
What'dyabringmetoday???
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You are by far the biggest idiot ever.
Pullman Brown
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See this is what I don’t understand. Rank and file are there and part of the negotiating. They no that if you give the company any wiggle room, grey areas, etc.. they are going to run with it. So shut the gate no open gates. I guess they just can’t win those battles.
Example: Six punch. Article 11 section 1v. Put language in there that says - all resolutions are acceptable except the forcing of any drivers in on their days off or any other language that would strike down or trump other language previously stated in contract or this article.
Pullman Brown
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Staydryitsraining
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So this means no previous 22.4 will have 9.5 protection?
Pullman Brown
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You’re right nevermind.
Appvol
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Couldn’t say. Looks like if you don’t have 4 years of driving you might not. At my center we have several cover drivers with 4 years of driving
Pullman Brown
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In the current contract if you were eligible for just one of those three reasons you could file. But if you didn’t bid on a route and you didn’t have 4 years you were screwed. The whole language about being assigned is confusing and I don’t see how you prove that you were assigned to anything if you didn’t bid on something.
So basically if you have four years or less then bid on vacations. Again, all they had to do was add the word or two times and you have no problems understanding what qualifies for a 9.5 grievance.
