Tentative contract

[Just A UPS Guy]

Yea I saw that too.. idk will wait till more comes out I guess

I digress...I PRESUME that's just how you're reading it, I agree...we shall see.

 

[MostHelpNeeded]

But, let's keep in mind, it's okay if a "legit deal" works out for both sides. I'm fine if UPS feels like it won too, that's how a deal should feel. If that's the case, we shouldn't be so worried about 2028. If they feel they were had, then start saving now, they're coming for us.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's a bad deal. Just that it's more par for the course, and not what I would call historic at all.
22.4's are a give back. Part time wages are now average for my area for warehouse work. It's 2023, A/C is standard in EVERYTHING. It's not like they're retrofitting. A 5 day workweek is standard and was just another giveback that we got back. Raises that yet again, still don't keep up with inflation.

Sorry, this is my 5th contract and I just don't see it being any better or worse than any of them really. As I said, par for the course.

UPS will raise their rates a few percent to cover the expenses as they always do, and boom...'cost neutral.'

 

[upschuck]

So, there has been an agreement for over an hour, when are we going to see the actual contract. What's taking them so long?

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's a bad deal. Just that it's more par for the course, and not what I would call historic at all.
22.4's are a give back. Part time wages are now average for my area for warehouse work. It's 2023, A/C is standard in EVERYTHING. It's not like they're retrofitting. A 5 day workweek is standard and was just another giveback that we got back. Raises that yet again, still don't keep up with inflation.

Sorry, this is my 5th contract and I just don't see it being any better or worse than any of them really. As I said, par for the course.

UPS will raise their rates a few percent to cover the expenses as they always do, and boom...'cost neutral.'

In all fairness, you have to keep in mind what "historic" refers to. With the amount of changed language and the length of improvements it really is, when compared to previous contracts, really since the 80s. A 48% improvement to starting wage, regardless of area standards, is a historic improvement. $7.50 over the life of the contract is a historic total. A/C and getting UPS to dismantle the two-tier system of 22.4s is historic.

Not that I don't get your point, or even agree with you at a fundamental level, I'm just saying it's all relative. $7.50 is about 18% and underwhelming, especially with only 6.5% up front, but I get it with the PT improvements. Also, we've yet to see the HWP package. Either way, there are 340k votes and that many opportunities to express an opinion.

 

[UnionStrong]

View attachment 439475According to this it’s $2.75 and $7.50

That’s more than 49 at the end of contract, it doesn’t add up. It says 49 an hour by the end. There’s a mistake somewhere

 

[Wontmake9.5]

That’s more than 49 at the end of contract

Yea I saw that part too.
I want $10 or I am voting no

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

That’s more than 49 at the end of contract, it doesn’t add up. It says 49 an hour by the end. There’s a mistake somewhere

For some

 

[Spicybrother]

I am waiting for UPS to release profits. That may factor into how great a deal guys feel this is.

 

[UnionStrong]

For some

I assume it means top rate. No?

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

I assume it means top rate. No?

Yeah, but there's a variance of almost a couple dollars across the country. Some are barely at $41 when others are over $42.50. Usually it's because of deferred earnings into a legal fund or extra pension contributions, etc.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Block of cheese

Government cheese?

 

[anonymous23456]

Government cheese?

Is that American Kraft Single?

 

[UnionStrong]

Is that American Kraft Single?

You get a slice, one slice.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Wall Street doesn't like our new contract

Eff em

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

Government cheese?

*Ahemm*......"Gubment" cheese?

 

[UnionStrong]

Wall Street doesn't like our new contract

Eff em
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They’ll get over it.

 

[Houndstooth]

As a proud union-PVD driver I cannot support this deal.

 

[justaquestion]

So do long time part timers get the $1.50 longevity raise and the $2.75 yearly raise starting next Wednesday?

 

[R1wonder]

Speak for yourself…

That’s generally what I do in life . I certainly don’t speak for you

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

So do long time part timers get the $1.50 longevity raise and the $2.75 yearly raise starting next Wednesday?

We don't get anything until the contract passes