The 2024 Presidential Race Thread

[Box Ox]

So that a dozen cities can determine what's best for the whole country? No thanks.

Sucks to suck.

Are those dozen cities the places that suck or don't suck here?

 

[Next Day Err]

I like Donald Trump because he talks the way we used to be able to talk about people.

 

[Next Day Err]

Are those dozen cities the places that suck or don't suck here?

The EC was a compromise to appease the slaver South. We are way beyond this now I would hope.

National popular vote to pick our president. Politicians shouldn’t be allowed to draw their own districts so that the people can pick their politicians, not the other way around for Congress.

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

The EC was a compromise to appease the slaver South. We are way beyond this now I would hope.

Where tf did you come up with this?

 

[Next Day Err]

Where tf did you come up with this?

The Electoral College wasn’t designed solely to appease the slaveholding South, but slavery’s influence on its creation is undeniable. When the Founding Fathers debated the method for electing the president, they were faced with various tensions, including balancing power between large and small states, and between Northern and Southern interests. While the idea of a national popular vote was considered, it raised concerns about disproportionately favoring states with large populations. Given that the South’s economy and political power relied on slavery, Southern states had a vested interest in a system that would maintain their influence.

The Three-Fifths Compromise already gave Southern states added representation by counting three-fifths of the enslaved population in determining seats in the House of Representatives. This calculation carried over to the Electoral College, which assigns electors based on the combined total of each state’s senators and representatives. Thus, the Electoral College system effectively enhanced Southern influence by allowing states with large enslaved populations to gain more electoral votes, despite those enslaved individuals having no political rights or voice.

This structure helped ensure the South would not be outvoted by the more populous North and contributed to a balance that Southern delegates felt comfortable with. Some historians argue that the need to protect slavery was not the sole driver behind the Electoral College, but it was a significant factor in the final design. The system ultimately allowed the Southern states to wield outsized influence in early U.S. presidential elections, helping preserve their interests for decades.

 

[Thebrownblob]

I like Donald Trump because he talks the way we used to be able to talk about people.

Used to?

 

[Thebrownblob]

The Electoral College wasn’t designed solely to appease the slaveholding South, but slavery’s influence on its creation is undeniable. When the Founding Fathers debated the method for electing the president, they were faced with various tensions, including balancing power between large and small states, and between Northern and Southern interests. While the idea of a national popular vote was considered, it raised concerns about disproportionately favoring states with large populations. Given that the South’s economy and political power relied on slavery, Southern states had a vested interest in a system that would maintain their influence.

The Three-Fifths Compromise already gave Southern states added representation by counting three-fifths of the enslaved population in determining seats in the House of Representatives. This calculation carried over to the Electoral College, which assigns electors based on the combined total of each state’s senators and representatives. Thus, the Electoral College system effectively enhanced Southern influence by allowing states with large enslaved populations to gain more electoral votes, despite those enslaved individuals having no political rights or voice.

This structure helped ensure the South would not be outvoted by the more populous North and contributed to a balance that Southern delegates felt comfortable with. Some historians argue that the need to protect slavery was not the sole driver behind the Electoral College, but it was a significant factor in the final design. The system ultimately allowed the Southern states to wield outsized influence in early U.S. presidential elections, helping preserve their interests for decades.

Blah blah, blah, white slave owners, blah blah, blah white slave owners, racist, blah blah blah

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

The Electoral College wasn’t designed solely to appease the slaveholding South, but slavery’s influence on its creation is undeniable. When the Founding Fathers debated the method for electing the president, they were faced with various tensions, including balancing power between large and small states, and between Northern and Southern interests. While the idea of a national popular vote was considered, it raised concerns about disproportionately favoring states with large populations. Given that the South’s economy and political power relied on slavery, Southern states had a vested interest in a system that would maintain their influence.

The Three-Fifths Compromise already gave Southern states added representation by counting three-fifths of the enslaved population in determining seats in the House of Representatives. This calculation carried over to the Electoral College, which assigns electors based on the combined total of each state’s senators and representatives. Thus, the Electoral College system effectively enhanced Southern influence by allowing states with large enslaved populations to gain more electoral votes, despite those enslaved individuals having no political rights or voice.

This structure helped ensure the South would not be outvoted by the more populous North and contributed to a balance that Southern delegates felt comfortable with. Some historians argue that the need to protect slavery was not the sole driver behind the Electoral College, but it was a significant factor in the final design. The system ultimately allowed the Southern states to wield outsized influence in early U.S. presidential elections, helping preserve their interests for decades.

So it is, but it's not, but it kind of is.

Gotcha.

Each state in the republic is fairly represented, as it should be.

 

[Next Day Err]

So it is, but it's not, but it kind of is.

Gotcha.

Each state in the republic is fairly represented, as it should be.

I just disagree. A non-plurality of people shouldn’t pick the POTUS.

I think a fairer way to handle this situation would be to double the size of the House.

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

I just disagree. A non-plurality of people shouldn’t pick the POTUS.

I think a fairer way to handle this situation would be to double the size of the House.

More government, always an appropriate solution.

 

[Next Day Err]

More government, always an appropriate solution.

Just better representation.

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

Just better representation.

I get it, but it's already a circus, I couldn't imagine adding more clowns.

 

[Next Day Err]

 

[Doublestandards]

Final Iowa Poll shows Harris leading Trump

The final Des Moines Register poll before Election Day shows a stunning turnaround in Iowa. The poll found Vice President Kamala Harris.Harris leads by a three

cbs2iowa.com

Saw she was doing better than expected in Kansas too.

I’ve read a lot of Puerto Ricans are upset about the comments at Trump rally and could effect the already super close Pennsylvania, who knows if that’s true though

 

[Next Day Err]

Final Iowa Poll shows Harris leading Trump

The final Des Moines Register poll before Election Day shows a stunning turnaround in Iowa. The poll found Vice President Kamala Harris.Harris leads by a three

cbs2iowa.com

Saw she was doing better than expected in Kansas too.

I’ve read a lot of Puerto Ricans are upset about the comments at Trump rally and could effect the already super close Pennsylvania, who knows if that’s true though

She’s over-performing expectations in Iowa as well.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Protesters that didn’t cross the line by illegally enter the Capitol building were not prosecuted.

False.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

So, DIDO and others that call Kamala Harris a "whore" for sleeping with a man who was separated from his wife for years, what do we call Trump for knowingly trying to "" a married woman?

You can clear up your confusion by looking up the definition of whore. You're welcome.

 

[Doublestandards]

She’s over-performing expectations in Iowa as well.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

The EC was a compromise to appease the slaver South. We are way beyond this now I would hope.

False.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Where tf did you come up with this?

Just parrots stuff he heard spewed on NPR.