The 2024 Presidential Race Thread

[Doublestandards]

Just parrots stuff he heard spewed on NPR.

What News source do you like to read? I’m always open to checking out new stuff

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

I just disagree. A non-plurality of people shouldn’t pick the POTUS.

Each state has an election.
Maybe you guys on the left should work on trying to appeal to people in the states you can't win, rather than crying about the electoral college.

 

[newfie]

Trump has taught you to hate NATO and Europe and taught you to love Putin and dictators.

Trump owns your mind.

 

[newfie]

Couldn’t you argue it’s the same with Trump straight up saying we should defund the justice department?

If we're ever going to get close to balancing the budget we'll have to learn to eliminate redundant departments. There are plenty of police resources at the local level between town, county and state police.

 

[newfie]

We would be better represented by a national popular vote.

it would be easier to the candidates they would just campaign in california, illinois and new york. the rest of the country is out of luck

 

[newfie]

The Electoral College wasn’t designed solely to appease the slaveholding South, but slavery’s influence on its creation is undeniable. When the Founding Fathers debated the method for electing the president, they were faced with various tensions, including balancing power between large and small states, and between Northern and Southern interests. While the idea of a national popular vote was considered, it raised concerns about disproportionately favoring states with large populations. Given that the South’s economy and political power relied on slavery, Southern states had a vested interest in a system that would maintain their influence.

The Three-Fifths Compromise already gave Southern states added representation by counting three-fifths of the enslaved population in determining seats in the House of Representatives. This calculation carried over to the Electoral College, which assigns electors based on the combined total of each state’s senators and representatives. Thus, the Electoral College system effectively enhanced Southern influence by allowing states with large enslaved populations to gain more electoral votes, despite those enslaved individuals having no political rights or voice.

This structure helped ensure the South would not be outvoted by the more populous North and contributed to a balance that Southern delegates felt comfortable with. Some historians argue that the need to protect slavery was not the sole driver behind the Electoral College, but it was a significant factor in the final design. The system ultimately allowed the Southern states to wield outsized influence in early U.S. presidential elections, helping preserve their interests for decades.

The Electoral College was conceived of and adopted at the 1787 Constitutional Convention .

 

[Doublestandards]

it would be easier to the candidates they would just campaign in california, illinois and new york. the rest of the country is out of luck

Not a bad point

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

The Electoral College was conceived of and adopted at the 1787 Constitutional Convention .

But because of slaves, but not really, kind of.

 

[newfie]

But because of slaves, but not really, kind of.

yea I cant see slavery being a consideration that early in the process.

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

yea I cant see slavery being a consideration that early in the process.

Since it (most likely) wasn't really even an argued point at that time.

 

[newfie]

Since it (most likely) wasn't really even an argued point at that time.

yea the absolitionist movement is generally considered to have started around 1831 here.
early 1800's in europe .

 

[Doublestandards]

yea I cant see slavery being a consideration that early in the process.

Since it (most likely) wasn't really even an argued point at that time.

yea the absolitionist movement is generally considered to have started around 1831 here.
early 1800's in europe .

I believe @Next Day Err point was that one of the benefits for southern states using the EC was slaves being counted towards their representation but not being able to vote themselves. Virginia began phasing out slaves in 1777, so if the EC was adopted in 1787 that would still make sense

 

[Next Day Err]

You can clear up your confusion by looking up the definition of whore. You're welcome.

What should we call a man who tries to have sex with a married woman? Got anything?

 

[Next Day Err]

I believe @Next Day Err point was that one of the benefits for southern states using the EC was slaves being counted towards their representation but not being able to vote themselves. Virginia began phasing out slaves in 1777, so if the EC was adopted in 1787 that would still make sense

Stop with the reason and logic, you’ll be ran out of town.

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

I believe @Next Day Err point was that one of the benefits for southern states using the EC was slaves being counted towards their representation but not being able to vote themselves. Virginia began phasing out slaves in 1777, so if the EC was adopted in 1787 that would still make sense

Still kind of a ty deal, really. They paid full price for them but only get 60% representation? Buncha bs if you ask me.

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

Stop with the reason and logic, you’ll be ran out of town.

Just thank him for explaining a point you had no idea how to make.

 

[Thebrownblob]

What should we call a man who tries to have sex with a married woman? Got anything?

Tries? Blue balls.

Succeeds?- Dude

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

What should we call a man who tries to have sex with a married woman? Got anything?

So you looked up the definition of whore.

And now you understand why it applies to Karmala but not Trump. Great. Glad I could help.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Still kind of a ty deal, really. They paid full price for them but only get 60% representation? Buncha bs if you ask me.

The electoral college was just to make those racist southern states happy!

Which is why all but one of those southern states voted against it....

Makes perfect sense!

 

[Box Ox]

What should we call a man who tries to have sex with a married woman?

What's a woman?