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Some guys never learn.
Some guys never learn.
It's strong now.
I know drivers in my center that make $50k a year.
What do you think we make?
A driver that works 2080 a year will make about $70k plus benefits.
Very good, but not the end all, be all paradise job you are portraying it as.
It's strong now.
Do you understand that?
90% plus funded.
But I don't think you are intelligent enough to know what the long term ramifications of diverting $1.25 so far on this contract from the pension to our healthcare plan.
And it may be more in the last 2 years of this contract.
So now that I have spelled it out for you, do you understand how my pension fund, and everyone else in the Western Conference of Teamsters Pension fund are going to be hurting in 5, 10 or 15 years down the road?
Do you see it now?
You are an idiot and a liar like EE.
1997-2002 Contract - Had caps on funding and small contributions under Ron Carey.
2002-2007 (six year contract) 70,408 contributed to your pension if you worked 2080 hours.
2008-2012 (5 year contract) 86,320 contributed to your pension if you worked 2080 hours. (up $15,912
2013-2017 (5 year contract) 102,440 MINIMUM into contributed to your pension if you worked 2080 hours. (up $16,120 MINIMUM)
YOU ARE CONTRIBUTING 20,448 A YEAR INTO YOUR FULLY SECURE WCT PENSION ON THIS CONTRACT! WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? YOU ARE SAYING YOU KNOW DRIVERS THAT MAKE 50K-70K A YEAR AND THEY CAN PUT THAT MUCH INTO PENSION AND YOUR BITCHING? WAKE UP CAUSE YOU JUST GOT SCHOOLED!
WTCP Actuary's Letter
What is pathetic is that you never called the WCT to ask them did you? Maybe you should and learn something. The phone number is on your personal benefit statement. Exact contribution rates are shown in our contract and basic contribution rates are shown on your benefit statement. Maybe you should not use Facebook and Browncafe for you main source of information and get it from the source. WWW.WCTPwnsion.orgView attachment 68985
I guess the WCT pension needs your accounting skills that you say you don't have.
This is our latest pension statement.
$20k I wish.
In 2014, I worked over 2550 hours.
Got pension contributions for 2080.1 hours.
You celebrated too soon boy.
Why would this be the case?Exact contribution rates are shown in our contract and basic contribution rates are shown on your benefit statement.
Don't take my word for it, I advise you call our call our awesome pension plan and ask yourself. We have a Peer 80 early retirement plan which is if your age and years of service equal 80 you can retire with a nice benefit. Comparatively it is easily one of the best deals for UPSers (realdown1 obviously doesn't get it).Why would this be the case?
What's the purpose?
Seems intentionally confusing?
I have said our contribution rate is stuck at $9.85 for over 2 years now.What is pathetic is that you never called the WCT to ask them did you? Maybe you should and learn something. The phone number is on your personal benefit statement. Exact contribution rates are shown in our contract and basic contribution rates are shown on your benefit statement. Maybe you should not use Facebook and Browncafe for you main source of information and get it from the source. WWW.WCTPwnsion.org
- You should always take time to check plan coverage on your statement and compare how your employers contributions add up each year. Contact your area administrative office if you have any questions regarding the hours shown on your statement.
You are an idiot and a liar like EE.
1997-2002 Contract - Had caps on funding and small contributions under Ron Carey.
2002-2007 (six year contract) 70,408 contributed to your pension if you worked 2080 hours.
2008-2012 (5 year contract) 86,320 contributed to your pension if you worked 2080 hours. (up $15,912)
2013-2017 (5 year contract) 102,440 MINIMUM into contributed to your pension if you worked 2080 hours. (up $16,120 MINIMUM)
YOU ARE CONTRIBUTING 20,448 A YEAR INTO YOUR FULLY SECURE WCT PENSION ON THIS CONTRACT! WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? YOU ARE SAYING YOU KNOW DRIVERS THAT MAKE 50K-70K A YEAR AND THEY CAN PUT THAT MUCH INTO PENSION AND YOUR BITCHING? WAKE UP CAUSE YOU JUST GOT SCHOOLED!
WTCP Actuary's Letter
View attachment 68985
I guess the WCT pension needs your accounting skills that you say you don't have.
This is our latest pension statement.
$20k I wish.
In 2014, I worked over 2550 hours.
Got pension contributions for 2080.1 hours.
You celebrated too soon boy.
Have you become an accountant in the last 3 weeks?
Becuase you claimed you weren't an accountant, so you couldn't understand what our local's net worth of -$410,000.00 meant.
But it is 100% clear, by your posts, that you don't have a clue for the breal down of how our $9.85 is invested for our pension.
So let me make it simple.
$8.46 is put into our pension.
$1.39 is extra, and most goes to pay for early retirement (PEER).
Are you getting this?
I tried to make it simple.
Clearly, you have no clue either.
It's not $20k.
It's $17.5k.
Just like I have said.
And what LAGUNABROWN now has admitted.
What UPS (not us) is contributing to the plan, and what it grows by are two different animals.WOW, NOW I KNOW WHY YOU FOLLOW EE...... $8.46 + $1.39 = $9.85 so like I said your contributing $9.85 x 2080 = $20,448 and your basic contribution is (17.5) is on your statement just like I told you in this post (post #46) that is time stamped and proves you don't read or have comprehension skill.
Read more: http://www.browncafe.com/community/...k-of-jc42-pdk-952.368285/page-3#ixzz3zmMniHld
YOU ARE CONTRIBUTING 20,448 A YEAR INTO YOUR FULLY SECURE WCT PENSION ON THIS CONTRACT! WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? YOU ARE SAYING YOU KNOW DRIVERS THAT MAKE 50K-70K A YEAR AND THEY CAN PUT THAT MUCH INTO PENSION AND YOUR BITCHING? WAKE UP CAUSE YOU JUST GOT SCHOOLED AGAIN!!!!!!
That is all relative. The fact is your putting more into your pension even though we allocated money to healthcare.What UPS (not us) is contributing to the plan, and what it grows by are two different animals.
Some of the money goes to grow the pension.
Some of the money goes to pay for other things.
I trust my judgement.That is all relative. The fact is your putting more into your pension even though we allocated money to healthcare.
EE is a liar, you need to stop listening to that guy.
I trust my judgement.
Not yours, not anyone else's.
I don't trust you at all.
You just will not admit the truth when it comes to our local's finances.
That, and other things, makes you untrustworthy.
Funny you talking about trust when:
1) You just got caught lying about pension contributions by posting your Pension statement. You said we contribute 17.5k into pension every year when it is $20,488.
Damn sucks to be you. Talk about a hard luck story.fed crap like all good mushrooms.
Living off the credit cards
What's your guess on our NET WORTH?
Mine is -$550,000.00.
I know.Damn sucks to be you. Talk about a hard luck story.
Only $17.5k goes into our pension account.
About $2k goes for PEER and other items.
You lied when you said $20k goes into our pension account, it doesn't.
I don't put all the blame on you.
PK's boys, even the Benedict Arnold of OC is kept in the dark and fed crap like all good mushrooms.
And you still can't say that our local is broke.
Living off the credit cards.
The LM-2's come out in just over a month.
What's your guess on our NET WORTH?
Mine is -$550,000.00.
Your whole post is garbage.All anyone needs to do is read from post #43 of this thread to see I caught you lying...... I told you how much monies got contributed to your pension if you worked 2080 hour the last 3 contracts I showed you it is going up THIS CONTRACT even when we allocated funds to Health and welfare. I told your contributing $20,488 a year to your pension under THIS CONTRACT. You are the tool that posted your statement and didn't understand that exact contribution rates are shown in our contract and basic contribution rates are shown on your benefit statement. You have made countless idiot claims that are false with zero proof. Most embarrassing of all you attack UNIONS and never ever attack management.
Your whole post is garbage.
You support people who are ruining your local and international.
You are the problem.
And as for our pension, I am correct as my pension statement proves.
UPS puts $17.5k into our pension plan as our pension statements verify.
And UPS gives the pension fund another $2k per ft member to pay for early retirement and cost to run our pension.
But hey, how about that -$410,000.00 net worth our local has as of Dec 2014?