The Hoffa era is over, and the Teamsters are ready to fight

Pullman Brown

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The problem in all these comments is everybody is still assuming that getting rid of 22.4s and making everybody RPCD’s along with changing there schedules is going to guarantee that there business model is going to change ie.. use some of the workforce to supplement weekend work which leads to six days a week. I don’t buy it. This company is all about making money period. The language in the national allows it. Some supplements are better than others but a lot are not. What is going to stop them from working guys six days a week other than strong no six punch national language. I still think if you get rid of 22.4’s it’s going to get worse.
 

Thebrownblob

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The problem in all these comments is everybody is still assuming that getting rid of 22.4s and making everybody RPCD’s along with changing there schedules is going to guarantee that there business model is going to change ie.. use some of the workforce to supplement weekend work which leads to six days a week. I don’t buy it. This company is all about making money period. The language in the national allows it. Some supplements are better than others but a lot are not. What is going to stop them from working guys six days a week other than strong no six punch national language. I still think if you get rid of 22.4’s it’s going to get worse.
I think most of us were assuming they won’t get rid of the 22.4. And I’m not sure the “Forced” six days could get much worse. Pretty much a weekly occurrence. I do believe it’s a lot more likely that we will have stronger six day language in the next contract than getting rid of article 22.4. as was posted here before the company has had the ability in the central to work every day of the week for quite a long time. What we didn’t think would happened was they would pay those people less.
 
I think most of us were assuming they won’t get rid of the 22.4. And I’m not sure the “Forced” six days could get much worse. Pretty much a weekly occurrence. I do believe it’s a lot more likely that we will have stronger six day language in the next contract than getting rid of article 22.4. as was posted here before the company has had the ability in the central to work every day of the week for quite a long time. What we didn’t think would happened was they would pay those people less.
Pay them double time for a sixth punch and after a certain amount of violations the company is a hire more people
 

MostHelpNeeded

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Yes one of those other Union trades make $50 an hour but they dion't have the benefits that we receive.
Top rate RPCD makes $80k without overtime.

Don't know where you are, or if that even matters so much anymore...but where I am $100k is below market, especially for union

Wouldn't you like a raise? Why do so many undervalue themselves?

Giving a billion back to the people who make the money possible shouldn't be a bad thing.

If we don't fight for more, the status quo degrades and what was once a high regarded well paying job that people actually wanted to land, becomes...well, something not so glamourous lol....It's happening right now, right in front of us.

We give up a lot to do this job. Physical and mental. We become institutionalized and deal, but it's a lot. Don't forget that.

Don't be ashamed to be the one to be envied. Make Amazon and Fedex WANT to be union
 
Top rate RPCD makes $80k without overtime.

Don't know where you are, or if that even matters so much anymore...but where I am $100k is below market, especially for union

Wouldn't you like a raise? Why do so many undervalue themselves?

Giving a billion back to the people who make the money possible shouldn't be a bad thing.

If we don't fight for more, the status quo degrades and what was once a high regarded well paying job that people actually wanted to land, becomes...well, something not so glamourous lol....It's happening right now, right in front of us.

We give up a lot to do this job. Physical and mental. We become institutionalized and deal, but it's a lot. Don't forget that.

Don't be ashamed to be the one to be envied. Make Amazon and Fedex WANT to be union
I always want more money who doesn't?

Maybe they need to make market rate adjustments by where you live at
 

Non liberal

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$40 is not unrealistic when a company profits 7 billion before the fourth and busiest quarter. With 4 billion in profits last year and inflation I’d say $50 is the new benchmark we should shoot for.
there is a difference between what the company can afford to pay and what they will pay. Pretty soon it Will be cheaper to pay Elon musk just to invent a driverless delivery van and kick our asses to the curb. Or just let Amazon take the whole thing over.
 

Thebrownblob

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Their already replacing the hub employees with every new building they build. Driverless cars are right around the corner. Feeders will be the first to go, pkg car will be a little more difficult. They’ll trim it down as far as they can.
Yep they automated the building I am in and somehow it requires more people. They don’t do much they stand around and push a package every now and then, or break a jam😂
 

Non liberal

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Yep they automated the building I am in and somehow it requires more people. They don’t do much they stand around and push a package every now and then, or break a jam😂
They built two new ones where I am. I work in the original old building. My building has alot more hub employees then the new ones. All they need is 1-2 loaders-unloaders per trailer, no sorters in the new ones. Maybe your building is just run by extra worthless mgt. because we lost a ton of jobs with the opening of these two where i am.
 
Lol, it can’t last forever. I’m just saying. Don’t know when it will be, but no company can afford to keep giving employees almost 1.00hr raise every year.
Please look at the quarterly profits of this company over the last couple of years.
Our wages are growing up but nowhere near as fast as profits of this company
 

Non liberal

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Hell no they gave a big chunk to the shareholders

They raise a dividend by 50%, which ballpark math comes out to one point five billion dollars a year
Exactly, they’re not just going to sit back and start cutting into the shareholders profits by giving it to us. If we ask for too much, they’ll come up with a way to cut us out of it. Technology is coming at a speed that is unprecedented, unfortunately. Or like I said, if amazon can provide the same service for cheaper, they’ll take the volume.
 
Exactly, they’re not just going to sit back and start cutting into the shareholders profits by giving it to us. If we ask for too much, they’ll come up with a way to cut us out of it. Technology is coming at a speed that is unprecedented, unfortunately. Or like I said, if amazon can provide the same service for cheaper, they’ll take the volume.
We have lots of composition out there that's no doubt.
But we are giving them all the low profit packages because at least for now those companies cannot match what we do
 

Non liberal

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As long as they are making record profits and upping the dividend every quarter
Why the :censored2: not
Because eventually the well runs dry. I remember listening to my dads buddies from the steel mill. they used to brag about how much they made, how they received a full pension when they retired. Better benefits then the mgt. they kept pushing, and pushed themselves right out of a job when the mill closed. Now they get jack :censored2:! I like a raise just like the next guy, im just saying sometimes you just need to be happy with the best pay in the industry, a pension that nobody else has, and a top tier health plan. I for one would like to actually collect a pension when I get there.
 
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