THE REALITY OF THE U.P.S. CONTRACT

[Irishman Collins]

U.P.S. has had my insurance since I began work at U.P.S.. The benefits have stayed the same and they are the shiny new Cadillac plan. I think I should ask Y.R.C. employees what they think of Central States and their health plan. I think the minimum age to retire with benefits at Y.R.C. is something like 98 isn't it? Also what is the minimum age to retire with benefits north of Columbus, currently? I bet it's not 51 like in the South. Why are you all so desperate to have less than we get in the South? After we turned it down the first time, didn't you guys benefit from our efforts like we did? I think they changed your benefits up North after the first vote, didn't they? Remember the I.B.T. and Ohio said that our benefits couldn't be changed because the Master passed and then Whamo, mysteriously they changed! We have been lied to throughout this process and quite frankly it disgust me!

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[upschuck]

U.P.S. has had my insurance since I began work at U.P.S.. The benefits have stayed the same and they are the shiny new Cadillac plan.

UPS HC had a cut in the late 90's I believe. I remember because all the PT'ers were po'ed for a while. They got over it then, they'll get over it now.

 

[Stonefish]

U.P.S. has had my insurance since I began work at U.P.S.. The benefits have stayed the same and they are the shiny new Cadillac plan. I think I should ask Y.R.C. employees what they think of Central States and their health plan. I think the minimum age to retire with benefits at Y.R.C. is something like 98 isn't it? Also what is the minimum age to retire with benefits north of Columbus, currently? I bet it's not 51 like in the South. Why are you all so desperate to have less than we get in the South? After we turned it down the first time, didn't you guys benefit from our efforts like we did? I think they changed your benefits up North after the first vote, didn't they? Remember the I.B.T. and Ohio said that our benefits couldn't be changed because the Master passed and then Whamo, mysteriously they changed! We have been lied to throughout this process and quite frankly it disgust me!

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Not Cadillac plan. You should the YRC members what they think about their healthcare plan. 98 try another misinformation tactic. People in the South some in he South are in Central States already. No I don't remember when the IBT and Ohio said it couldn't change.
Don't worry. Be happy

 

[Irishman Collins]

Stonefish, I am talking about South Ohio, from Columbus down. Also, yes we were told in our contract meeting that the Master can't be changed. When the vote went down they put us into a better Teamcare plan. It's still pales in comparison to our current plan. I asked questions which again you didn't answer. # 1.what is the minimum age you can retire with benefits in your area and what is the minimum age for Y.R.C. employees to retire with benefits? Currently we can retire at 51 with benefits. Why would we want to give that up?

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[Stonefish]

Stonefish, I am talking about South Ohio, from Columbus down. Also, yes we were told in our contract meeting that the Master can't be changed. When the vote went down they put us into a better Teamcare plan. It's still pales in comparison to our current plan. I asked questions which again you didn't answer. # 1.what is the minimum age you can retire with benefits in your area and what is the minimum age for Y.R.C. employees to retire with benefits? Currently we can retire at 51 with benefits. Why would we want to give that up?

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What changed in the Master after the first vote?
The age to receive retiree healthcare at YRC is age 57. They appreciate their benefits unlike some.
The age for a UPS member who is currently in the Company Plan to receive health care is 52 in the TeamCare Plan if you were full-time prior to 8/1/13.

 

[stink219]

Ok, I get it. Maybe there is someone out there who can explain intelligently the reason we should vote yes and except this contract full of concessions and a " unsustainable" health plan.

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I've had teamster run health forever. My last EBoard increased the surplus 17 million in 7 years. Now at 45 million. You'll be fine.


Why does every TDU defender never admit they are TDU supporters?

 

[stink219]

Well unless your in local 805. Lmfao!


Why does every TDU defender never admit they are TDU supporters?

 

[Bubblehead]

I've had teamster run health forever. My last EBoard increased the surplus 17 million in 7 years. Now at 45 million. You'll be fine.

...until the ACA kicks in.
You don't know of any changes in the bill that will prevent it from having an adverse affect on your Taft Hartley plan, do you?

 

[stink219]

Depends if your fund is self administered or not. Mine is, yours will be.


Why does every TDU defender never admit they are TDU supporters?

 

[stink219]

Did you not know about the union exemptions?


Why does every TDU defender never admit they are TDU supporters?

 

[Atomic_Smurf]

Did you not know about the union exemptions?


Why does every TDU defender never admit they are TDU supporters?

Tell us about the Union exemptions. Be specific.

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[upschuck]

...until the ACA kicks in.
You don't know of any changes in the bill that will prevent it from having an adverse affect on your Taft Hartley plan, do you?

Or the UPS plan, do you?

 

[Bubblehead]

Or the UPS plan, do you?

You said you don't want to hear about their deep pockets?

 

[Bubblehead]

...and round and round we go.
I'm jumping off this merry-go-round.
See you guys at the finish line next week.

 

[Stonefish]

You said you don't want to hear about their deep pockets?

You're funny you should your with Larry the Cable guy. Oh

 

[upschuck]

I guess @Bubblehead took his ball and went home.

 

[Stonefish]

...and round and round we go.
I'm jumping off this merry-go-round.
See you guys at the finish line next week.

So you think it will be over next week?

 

[upschuck]

So you think it will be over next week?

I don't know. If they had legitimate reasons to vote it down, I'd side with them(like L89). But this panic on HC is a little crazy.

 

[Stonefish]

I don't know. If they had legitimate reasons to vote it down, I'd side with them(like L89). But this panic on HC is a little crazy.

I hope it's over with next week.

 

[Irishman Collins]

I don't know. If they had legitimate reasons to vote it down, I'd side with them(like L89). But this panic on HC is a little crazy.

What about the words WILL make non-profit plans like our Unsustainable! Is that reason enough for you? This quote was taken from the letter Hoffa wrote with two other Union Leaders about how the Affordable Care Act will affect Taft Hartley plans like Teamcare. Will means shall! There is no in between. What is so hard to understand. You guys seem like career politicians instead of drivers. As far as the U.P.S. plan remaining sustainable. Anything is possible but i will take my chances with a possibility instead of a definite. Who are you guys trying to protect? If you are as intelligent as you seem then I am sure you can understand that the Word WILL leaves no question as to what will happen to Teamcare without legislation protecting it. I look forward to your pictures of your dogs or elementary comments in response since that seems to be all you can do to try and cloud this issue.