The religion of peace strikes again...
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tourists24
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So what does this prove WK? And what if God IS bad? what's the answer? Or even better, does it mean there is no God? How did we all get here and what happens when we die? All you are doing is stirring the pot right? Faith is a tough thing for sure, but what is also sure, man cannot out think it.
wkmac
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When you lose focus that all forms of religious fundamentalism are dangerous is when reality always comes a calling to wake you up.
No religion is any better or worse when the elements of fundamentalism creep in and control it. The hard part is for religion in general to maintain itself while trying to say these bronze and iron age teaching in our modern and wiser world are not meant to be taken literal and yet still not appear the inconsistent hypocrite as in denying the word of god. How for example do you encourage the "honoring of father and mother" and yet argue that the death penalty for back talking children is no longer in force? In another age, Casey Anthony could claim her daughter dishonored her and the murder, opps check that, the execution of Caylee would be completely justified under biblical law. What sayeth yee Jesus?
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All Casey had to do was walk in that court of christian America and in front of a christian jury and declare she was following the words of Jesus and of God himself to the letter and when Casey dishonored her mother, the law was invoked. Now it's the christian duty of the courts and jury to thank Casey for her christian stand, all bow and thank god and then Casey is on her way. Oh extreme of me you say? No such thing in christianity as that?
So you want to deny the literal of the bible?
And you've been thinking I'm the one playing with fire and damnation!
We are under grace you say, not the law so now what happens that be true to the original 10 commandments, are they of no effect either? So what happens to the argument that without religion there is no morality? What happens to what Jesus said in "love the lord your god with all your heart and love your neighbor as thyself"? Talk about the perfect cliffnote version of the big 10, Jesus nailed it!
There in lay the dilemma of religion and the struggles with fundamentalism. Even the most peaceful and well intended of any faith are met with a challenge that IMO at the end of the day can't be overcome without undermining the foundational belief that the holy book itself is the actual words of some all powerful, all present, all knowing god or at the least the word of man completely inspired eg controlled by the hand of god.
I think somebody is waiting on you and I'll save you the warmest spot by the fire. I mean what are friends for!
No religion is any better or worse when the elements of fundamentalism creep in and control it. The hard part is for religion in general to maintain itself while trying to say these bronze and iron age teaching in our modern and wiser world are not meant to be taken literal and yet still not appear the inconsistent hypocrite as in denying the word of god. How for example do you encourage the "honoring of father and mother" and yet argue that the death penalty for back talking children is no longer in force? In another age, Casey Anthony could claim her daughter dishonored her and the murder, opps check that, the execution of Caylee would be completely justified under biblical law. What sayeth yee Jesus?
Mark 7:8-10
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Matthew 5:18
2 Timothy 3:16
All Casey had to do was walk in that court of christian America and in front of a christian jury and declare she was following the words of Jesus and of God himself to the letter and when Casey dishonored her mother, the law was invoked. Now it's the christian duty of the courts and jury to thank Casey for her christian stand, all bow and thank god and then Casey is on her way. Oh extreme of me you say? No such thing in christianity as that?
So you want to deny the literal of the bible?
Revelation 22:18 I think ole' Jesus also said, "depart from me as I never knew you!"
And you've been thinking I'm the one playing with fire and damnation!
We are under grace you say, not the law so now what happens that be true to the original 10 commandments, are they of no effect either? So what happens to the argument that without religion there is no morality? What happens to what Jesus said in "love the lord your god with all your heart and love your neighbor as thyself"? Talk about the perfect cliffnote version of the big 10, Jesus nailed it!
There in lay the dilemma of religion and the struggles with fundamentalism. Even the most peaceful and well intended of any faith are met with a challenge that IMO at the end of the day can't be overcome without undermining the foundational belief that the holy book itself is the actual words of some all powerful, all present, all knowing god or at the least the word of man completely inspired eg controlled by the hand of god.
I think somebody is waiting on you and I'll save you the warmest spot by the fire. I mean what are friends for!
tourists24
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That's what makes it so hard to believe WK. Of course why would you care if you are a non believer? You take these verses and make them look one way. My preacher will come with those exact verses and show the good if you take the entire context of it. I dont see in Mark 7 where it gives the right to parents to murder their children on their whim. Put to death is the ultimate price of sin but that doesnt mean go out and kill everyone. What is your faith? Yourself?
Babagounj
Strength through joy
KABUL (BNO NEWS) — Suspected members of the Taliban on Friday hung the 8-year-old son of a local police commander in southern Afghanistan after ordering his father to surrender, according to a news report on Saturday.
The Deutsche Presse-Agentur (DPA) news agency reported that the young boy was kidnapped by militants in the Greshk district of Helmand province on Tuesday. They had ordered his father to surrender to the Taliban or else the boy would be executed.
“The militants had warned his father, who is a local police commander, to surrender with his police vehicle and weapons, otherwise they would kill his son,” provincial governor spokesman Daud Ahmadi told DPA. The boy was hung on Friday.
The Deutsche Presse-Agentur (DPA) news agency reported that the young boy was kidnapped by militants in the Greshk district of Helmand province on Tuesday. They had ordered his father to surrender to the Taliban or else the boy would be executed.
“The militants had warned his father, who is a local police commander, to surrender with his police vehicle and weapons, otherwise they would kill his son,” provincial governor spokesman Daud Ahmadi told DPA. The boy was hung on Friday.
moreluck
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Why are we spending millions overseas to help build mosques???
http://townhall.com/columnists/chucknorris/2011/07/26/the_separation_of_mosque_and_state/page/full/
http://townhall.com/columnists/chucknorris/2011/07/26/the_separation_of_mosque_and_state/page/full/
wkmac
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Sweetie, go back and read history in the 1980's and learn who built all those Madrassas in the Af-Pak region (and what purpose they really served) you guys are always screaming about. And how do you think we knew where all those Al Qaeda training camps were?
A little study of US Foreign Policy and it's actions will reveal so much!
moreluck
golden ticket member
Obama's just one of the boys !?
http://townhall.com/columnists/mich..._to_ingratiate_himself_to_islamists_backfires
http://townhall.com/columnists/mich..._to_ingratiate_himself_to_islamists_backfires
wkmac
Well-Known Member
That's so old. Saw it 6 months ago on the DIY Channel!
Babagounj
Strength through joy
Awesome: Allen West Responds To CAIR Demand He Distance Himself From “Anti-Islamic” Groups With One-Word Letter: “NUTS!”…
As this CBS story points out, this is almost certainly a reference to U.S. General Anthony McAuliffe, whose forces were surrounded in Bastogne by the Germans during WWII’s Battle of the Bulge, when asked to surrender he responded with a one-word letter, “NUTS!”
As this CBS story points out, this is almost certainly a reference to U.S. General Anthony McAuliffe, whose forces were surrounded in Bastogne by the Germans during WWII’s Battle of the Bulge, when asked to surrender he responded with a one-word letter, “NUTS!”