The Russians Are Coming, The Russians Are Coming!
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wilberforce15
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Or they could, you know, recognize the right of a people to have self-government.
That's American, isn't it?
El Correcto
god is dead
We are gonna save a couple hundred billion a year letting a giant power vacuum take over the international stage in the face of a desperate pissed off Russia and rising China.
You must be in management.
MAKAVELI
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Or you could join the Chechs and fight for your Fuhrer.
Corps not core.
If you're going to talk tough about fighting enemies you have to know the lingo.
Chechens.
Do all gays have pics taken when they lose their virginity?
Sorry, couldn't resist!
wilberforce15
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Why are you so unable to understand basic English words?
I don't care who wins. I have no friend in the fight.
War in Ukraine is a 'metaphysical' battle against a civilization built on 'gay parades,' Russian Orthodox leader says
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“Patriarch Kirill, the leader of the Russian Orthodox Church, delivered a sermon Sunday in which he referred to the war in Ukraine as a "metaphysical" struggle against a godless international order.
He argued that war broke out after eight years of "attempts to destroy what exists in the Donbas," because the pro-Russian separatist republics embodied "a fundamental rejection of the so-called values that are offered today by those who claim world power." Kirill did not mention that a majority of Ukrainians are also Orthodox.
This world order, Kirill said, offers "excess consumption" and "visible 'freedom'" to any nation that proves its loyalty by "hold[ing] a gay parade." Kyiv hosts an annual gay pride parade.
In 2015, Russian President Vladimir Putin signed into law a ban on gay "propaganda," a term that included pride parades”
“Putin frequently accuses the West of "denying moral principles and all traditional identities" while portraying Russia as the guardian of "the Christian values that constitute the basis of Western civilization."
wilberforce15
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War in Ukraine is a 'metaphysical' battle against a civilization built on 'gay parades,' Russian Orthodox leader says
The latest Speed Read,/speed-reads,,speed-reads, breaking news, comment, reviews and features from the experts at The Week
“Patriarch Kirill, the leader of the Russian Orthodox Church, delivered a sermon Sunday in which he referred to the war in Ukraine as a "metaphysical" struggle against a godless international order.
He argued that war broke out after eight years of "attempts to destroy what exists in the Donbas," because the pro-Russian separatist republics embodied "a fundamental rejection of the so-called values that are offered today by those who claim world power." Kirill did not mention that a majority of Ukrainians are also Orthodox.
This world order, Kirill said, offers "excess consumption" and "visible 'freedom'" to any nation that proves its loyalty by "hold[ing] a gay parade." Kyiv hosts an annual gay pride parade.
In 2015, Russian President Vladimir Putin signed into law a ban on gay "propaganda," a term that included pride parades”
“Putin frequently accuses the West of "denying moral principles and all traditional identities" while portraying Russia as the guardian of "the Christian values that constitute the basis of Western civilization."
I suppose this could be added to the mental list of reasons some people might be keeping as to why Russia should be supported or at least sympathized with when it comes to their invasion of Ukraine?
Stop w the red scare hysteria
Nato expanded into 17 countries after usa, uk, france, germany said it would not expand at all after unification of germany
wilberforce15
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I separate the question of who is right in the conflict from who is worse morally or in worldview. Bad guys can be justified in doing things sometimes, and good guys can be wrong in doing things.
This is among my mental reasons that I'm pretty indifferent about who wins. I don't see a reason to be terribly dogmatic on either side.
TearsInRain
IE boogeyman
Yes it did. Now where are all these threatening missiles in those countries? NATO wouldn't have a need to even exist if Russia wasn't so belligerent.
No, it didnt need to exist after warsaw disappeared
Theres been billions in weapons sales to new nato members
War is a racket. they knew expanding nato was bad for policy, good for profits
Russia wanted to be part of a security system like nato but usa refused. germany was in favor
Now were paying high gas prices and risking nuclear war. ukraine will suffer - usa will drag it out at ukraines expense
Putin would want to reconstitute Russian empire whether NATO existed or not. And I’d think that the world would be at greater risk of nuclear war in defending against it without NATO than it is with NATO. Because NATO provides credible deterrence against his attempting to do so in the first place.
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