The Scourge of America with Integrity (On Topic Only Please)

[vantexan]

A lot? BTW, all are Democrats.

A lot of young adults couldn't tell you what Marxism is or who Marx was.....or that he is(ongoing) responsible for hundreds of millions of deaths.

My Family was severely devastated by my Father's early heart attack and stroke(39)(he never worked again). So, things were pretty tight until my adulthood. During that time and after, communism never entered my mind as a solution. For very obvious reasons as any reasonably intelligent person would conclude. If I didn't have enough of whatever I needed and wanted.....I worked longer and harder(mowing grass weekends).

It is estimated that fewer than 10% of ALL Americans are communist/socialist(All Democrat). Less of the really far out loons that currently occupy the White House/Congress(All Democrats) etc.

It is interesting how communist/socialist/liberal/democrat politics are soft-peddled so openly in media and the Congress. Especially here on BC. More interesting is the disconnect of voting for these policies/politicians and not accepting blame/effect. Truly disingenuous.... I believe a term used here on BC.

As a seasoned adult(61)........it's hard to imagine ANYONE longing for the Nazi holocaust, murdering of hundreds of millions of Russians, Chinese and any other communist(Marxist) regime. BTW, these historical facts and their discussion have been labeled (on BC)"disrespectful" and uncivilized......impolite. Every communist(Marxist) regime has ended and continues to use murder and force by gun to exist.

There is a small but growing call for college donations and endowments to be defunded.

Canceling and censoring won't make these simple truth's go away.

And it took about 50 communists to invade and take over Cuba. Lenin kicked off the Russian Revolution with a small group. This woke stuff that's permeating universities isn't capitalist based. And these are our future leaders. Not an accident that they're indoctrinating in universities. Not an accident that they're trying to teach CRT in high schools. Reagan once said we are a generation away from losing our freedom if we aren't vigilant. You might not see the red flag with the hammer and sickle flying but don't kid yourself that Marxism isn't alive and well.

 

[Integrity]

You fail to see the point.....too.

No matter how many people you confiscate from.....there will never be equality. That's the human condition. Something you fail to take into consideration. We are NOT all the same....physically or mentally or anything else.

Do we at the point of a gun....up to and including murder......take away from those that are successful.....in whatever measurement? How do we account for physical differences.....defects like alcoholism or drug addiction?

Some are even hindered by religion to the point of failure or weak outcomes.

Who do we punish? Who decides? The strong? The weak?

I believe we are all different but we are all equal.

 

[vantexan]

At least under my idea it probably wouldn’t be your money they are abusing American Society with, it would be mostly their own.

I know it wouldn’t be mine.

Look around you. Look at planes, trains, automobiles. Look at the phone in your hand, the computer on your desk, the tv in your living room. Look at every convenience that has made your life easier. They weren't created because some guy fiddled with something out of curiosity. Some guy had an idea, worked at it until he got something that was marketable, sought backing to bring it to market, and when it did well he and his backers made a lot if money. And the rest of us benefited. And sometimes he failed and lost money. Our system is based on risk and reward. You take away reward and people stop risking. It's not evil to make a lot of money. It's only evil to do evil things with the money. America is full of hospitals, universities, museums, parks with the names of wealthy benefactors on them. It is incorrect to believe we must control the rich. Every once in awhile you get a George Soros but most of the wealthy in this country believe in this country because they did well in this system. And they give back.

 

[vantexan]

Fdr came from a rich family and he also said his greatest achievement was that he saved capitalism, so i wouldnt call him a socialist. he passed the new deal because he was afraid of organized unions, socialists, and commies. i dont know how to measure the amount of commies in america at the time but you dont need much to have a revolution something like 1% of the population. FDR also saw what happened to russia 30 year before. ive heard him described as being a centrist who was pushed to the left because he was afraid.

You're of the opinion that if they come from a rich family they're evil? Most Antifa types are spoiled rich kids so maybe you're on to something.

 

[qdg2]

I believe we are all different but we are all equal.

We are all different...yes.....and unequal. There is no such thing as equality in the human condition. Equality is a woke notion.

Based on impossible precepts.

Your premise of stealing or murdering can have an equitable outcome......is not possible.

Even in identically manufactured machines, there are differences........better/worse performance.....flaws.

We are not all equal. Period.

 

[qdg2]

You're of the opinion that if they come from a rich family they're evil? Most Antifa types are spoiled rich kids so maybe you're on to something.

Can you prove such?

I would think most are jealous, envious types that are life's losers......in search of free equity.

 

[vantexan]

Can you prove such?

I would think most are jealous, envious types that are life's losers......in search of free equity.

I've seen it reported numerous times when Antifa members were arrested that they come from wealthy families. Are you of the opinion that the university breeding grounds where this stuff thrives are affordable places full of working class losers?

 

[Integrity]

Look around you. Look at planes, trains, automobiles. Look at the phone in your hand, the computer on your desk, the tv in your living room. Look at every convenience that has made your life easier. They weren't created because some guy fiddled with something out of curiosity. Some guy had an idea, worked at it until he got something that was marketable, sought backing to bring it to market, and when it did well he and his backers made a lot if money. And the rest of us benefited. And sometimes he failed and lost money. Our system is based on risk and reward. You take away reward and people stop risking. It's not evil to make a lot of money. It's only evil to do evil things with the money. America is full of hospitals, universities, museums, parks with the names of wealthy benefactors on them. It is incorrect to believe we must control the rich. Every once in awhile you get a George Soros but most of the wealthy in this country believe in this country because they did well in this system. And they give back.

Sure they do.

 

[Integrity]

We are all different...yes.....and unequal. There is no such thing as equality in the human condition. Equality is a woke notion.

Based on impossible precepts.

Your premise of stealing or murdering can have an equitable outcome......is not possible.

Even in identically manufactured machines, there are differences........better/worse performance.....flaws.

We are not all equal. Period.

The US Declaration of Independence seems to differ to your opinion.

Don’t understand the above sentence starting with “Your premises”.

 

[qdg2]

I've seen it reported numerous times when Antifa members were arrested that they come from wealthy families. Are you of the opinion that the university breeding grounds where this stuff thrives are affordable places full of working class losers?

Working class losers go to college. They are not all Ivy League. Or even close.

Consider: These groups are Far left-wing(Democrats). Often just simple criminals. Pro-labor etc. Working class socialist/anti-capitol. Thugs. Without a clue.

Rich kids have a far too plush lifestyle to throw away when caught(in the looting etc.) . I rather feel rich kids don't have the time nor inclination to participate in activity that would eventually see their riches and comforts eliminated. Talk is cheap.

 

[qdg2]

The US Declaration of Independence seems to differ to your opinion.

Don’t understand the above sentence starting with “Your premises”.

Right. You don't understand. Why? You are a communist/socialist/liberal. Confiscating taxation is carried out with the threat of jail, and eventually death at the point of a gun. These acts are commonly known as stealing and murder. In common terms.

The DOI has nothing to do with my statements. Think hard. It is interesting you use the DOI......when doing everything to make people unequal. Example: giving handouts to certain groups and not to everyone. To steal from one group or even kill to give to certain groups. Skin color/race is often used as a criteria for example.

Say, does the DOI permit confiscation and death? Remembering this country was founded on the premise of independence from a murdering, confiscating tyrannical govt. See?

 

[Integrity]

Right. You don't understand. Why? You are a communist/socialist/liberal. Confiscating taxation is carried out with the threat of jail, and eventually death at the point of a gun. These acts are commonly known as stealing and murder. In common terms.

The DOI has nothing to do with my statements. Think hard.

Say, does the DOI permit confiscation and death? Remembering this country was founded on the premise of independence from a murdering, confiscating tyrannical govt. See?

I do not identify with any Political Party, I am an independent American. IMO Yours is a pretty extreme viewpoint of our system of taxation.

Only to contradict you viewpoint in equality by stating the opposite.

 

[Fred's Myth]

I believe we are all different but we are all equal.

That’s the definition of equivalent.

 

[vantexan]

Sure they do.

Witty repartee'!!

 

[vantexan]

Working class losers go to college. They are not all Ivy League. Or even close.

Consider: These groups are Far left-wing(Democrats). Often just simple criminals. Pro-labor etc. Working class socialist/anti-capitol. Thugs. Without a clue.

Rich kids have a far too plush lifestyle to throw away when caught(in the looting etc.) . I rather feel rich kids don't have the time nor inclination to participate in activity that would eventually see their riches and comforts eliminated. Talk is cheap.

Who said all rich kids are in Antifa or are communists? I'm saying that in universities all over the country Marxism under various guises is being pushed and a lot of kids, even rich kids, are involved in it.

So working class kids who go to college are losers? Do you think the study of medicine, engineering, etc is for losers?

 

[rickyb]

You're of the opinion that if they come from a rich family they're evil? Most Antifa types are spoiled rich kids so maybe you're on to something.

no but fdr was a centrist until he was threatened by revolution

 

[rickyb]

tax the rich

 

[rickyb]

Look around you. Look at planes, trains, automobiles. Look at the phone in your hand, the computer on your desk, the tv in your living room. Look at every convenience that has made your life easier. They weren't created because some guy fiddled with something out of curiosity. Some guy had an idea, worked at it until he got something that was marketable, sought backing to bring it to market, and when it did well he and his backers made a lot if money. And the rest of us benefited. And sometimes he failed and lost money. Our system is based on risk and reward. You take away reward and people stop risking. It's not evil to make a lot of money. It's only evil to do evil things with the money. America is full of hospitals, universities, museums, parks with the names of wealthy benefactors on them. It is incorrect to believe we must control the rich. Every once in awhile you get a George Soros but most of the wealthy in this country believe in this country because they did well in this system. And they give back.

some stuff is made by the govt like alot of tech in our phones, the internet, computers, vaccines, etc

 

[vantexan]

some stuff is made by the govt like alot of tech in our phones, the internet, computers, vaccines, etc

No, stuff is invented in government labs, or by contractors. The government doesn't manufacture consumer items.

 

[vantexan]

no but fdr was a centrist until he was threatened by revolution

When was revolution threatened and by whom?