THE TRUMP 2024 THREAD
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In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
Next Day Err
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I don’t speak whatever kind of language you speak.“It’s a joke son…don’t you get it”…
Appvol
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You were bragging in a different thread about how much money you made when talking about tariffs and the market
Appvol
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Fred's Myth
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Fred's Myth
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Can't make terrible mistakes in Cheatle's now former line of work. Someone who's actually exceptionally qualified wouldn't have.
Next Day Err
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I make top driver pay, that’s it. I happen to save and invest close to half of my pay. I’m middle class, just responsible.
Next Day Err
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Top qualified surgeons never make fatal errors? Top MLB hitters never strike out? Top race car drivers never crash and burn?
Cheatle’s resignation is appropriate, I’m not arguing that. What I’m saying is that other heads of the USSS have also overseen attempted assassinations and have been equally qualified by all accounts.
Next Day Err
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I’ve taken roughly half my pay and invested in a variety of index funds, and thanks to Biden and his stable leadership I’ve made a lot of money along the way.
Thanks for asking. If a top qualified surgeon made a mistake as heinous as a USSS director not covering an obvious roof before an assassination attempt that was very close to being successful they'd probably be sued for malpractice and their medical license might be in jeopardy.
No need to throw in comparisons that aren't comparable at all.
Next Day Err
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I’m out of the loop. Was she there at the rally and personally signed off on the perimeter? Who was the most senior USSS official to lay eyes on the final plan? Was the final plan in line with past plans? I really don’t know. She owed us her resignation but I’m not going to sit here and confidently say she wasn’t wholly qualified for that position.
newfie
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not to mention there is a water tower in the right spot with a clear view of everything that would have been ideal for a secret service sniper team
Your analogies aren't appropriate. Even Democrat lawmakers were angry.at the level of incompetence and then the stonewalling. They called for her resignation also. They didn't call for her resignation because she's an unqualified woman. You're making it about that. Pointing out she's in her position because she ticks off diversity boxes is appropriate if true. What liberals try to do after such people are installed is say we can never criticize them otherwise we're sexist, racist, or a homophobe. They get that extra layer of protection while the ones most affected by their incompetence have to suffer the consequences. Lowering standards in some fields, like firefighting or flying planes, just so we can get more females or minorities into those fields doesn't make things fair and equitable. And it denigrates the efforts of women and minorities who worked hard to meet those previously more rigorous standards.
newfie
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argumentative you know the answer to your question. Her responses in front of congress showed a blatant lack of basic management skill. a few thoughts on that:
1) she would not in her position review every advance plan but she should periodically review one to let her people know she looks. It does not appear she did so and she certainly did not speak to what she has audited nor what she could speak to on this particular issues.
2) no communication. she should have held daily press conferences to speak to what has been discovered and what actions she is taking. Not doing so leads to speculation of a cover up.
3) she should have flown out to the site immediately and reviewed the entire site. In management those who are most effective are those who subscribe to a simple motto "go look" or another version more famous "trust but verify". when something is screwed up or has been screwed up go look and see if what you're people are telling you is accurate.
4) Her direct answers to questions what few there were do not give the impression that she fully understood the advance team processes. Her background does not appear to show advance team experience but a variety of supporting roles in the time she served in the ranks of the secret service. While that could be a handicap to her in her current role she could have overcome that by spending more time with the advance teams on their missions. presidential details are the bread and butter of the secret service and one she should have made sure she knew and understood intimately.
A competent director would've made sure that her personnel were appropriately trained. That the staff needed to cover an event were in place. That coordination with local authorities, especially communications, was well established. That basic things like vantage points weren't uncovered or ignored. They had so many negative things going on that the person at the top in charge had to take responsibility. Which she tried to not do.
Doublestandards
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What’s the conservatives views on project 2025 on here? Haven’t seen it discussed
Appvol
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Why does it matter Trump has already said it’s not his platform. I haven’t even read what Project 2025 is or care
Thebrownblob
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It’s an old document nothing new I believe it was written originally during the Reagan presidency. Sadly, I don’t believe there’s many conservatives in the “conservative” republican party. I’m not really sure what they conserve.
