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vantexan

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they went to heaven or hell for defending slavery? thats my question
That's up to God to decide. Slavery as practiced in the United States was evil. It was the way of mankind for millennia but by the time it reached the what is now the U.S. it had gone from enslaving defeated enemies to a wholesale enslavement of one race and justifying it as the right of a superior race to do so. What you don't understand is Christianity came out of a time where slavery was the norm and advanced humanity to the point that they could no longer justify such a practice and were willing to fight and die to end it. However slavery isn't what we have under capitalism today. I know I've used the term "wage slave" but that's a descriptive term only. You are free to work for someone or work for yourself. Or not work at all. Your standard of living is directly tied to the effort you make. You aren't owed anything.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
I guess it’s out of respect, Just like how “y’all” go around calling pedophiles “Minor attracted people”
You do realize how stupid you’re right.

MAPs is not an lgbt thing. Calling MAPs part of lgbt was straight up propaganda taking out of context who was speaking about pedophiles as “MAP” and who was pushing it.

It’s probably why you sit around calling Trunp daddy.
 

rickyb

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That's up to God to decide. Slavery as practiced in the United States was evil. It was the way of mankind for millennia but by the time it reached the what is now the U.S. it had gone from enslaving defeated enemies to a wholesale enslavement of one race and justifying it as the right of a superior race to do so. What you don't understand is Christianity came out of a time where slavery was the norm and advanced humanity to the point that they could no longer justify such a practice and were willing to fight and die to end it. However slavery isn't what we have under capitalism today. I know I've used the term "wage slave" but that's a descriptive term only. You are free to work for someone or work for yourself. Or not work at all. Your standard of living is directly tied to the effort you make. You aren't owed anything.
workers are owed the fruits of their labor and a work place where they are treated justly which is what the bible says. when you work for someone, you are not given the fruits of your labor.
 

fishtm2001

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donald, the other day

“Just so you know: They have a valve, and it turns, like think of a sink but multiply it times many thousands of times, the size of it, it’s massive. And you turn it back toward Los Angeles. Why aren’t they doing it?”
 

vantexan

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workers are owed the fruits of their labor and a work place where they are treated justly which is what the bible says. when you work for someone, you are not given the fruits of your labor.
Of course you are. You are paid a wage or salary. Do you think in the early Church all the Christians were living wealthy lives? Where does the Bible say everyone must be equal at work? You act like being assigned work by a supervisor is evil. Do you think you should be able to walk into a new job and be able to tell them how things should be run and vote on it? A lot of work requires experience and supervisors are often people who have such experience and assign you tasks that allowed you to learn the skill as you go. Who are you to tell that guy that he should do it this way or that when he has the skill and experience and you don't? Chomsky, Wolff, Hedges, and Nader don't have a clue how things work at many companies so how can they tell you the workplace should be this or that?
 

rickyb

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Of course you are. You are paid a wage or salary. Do you think in the early Church all the Christians were living wealthy lives? Where does the Bible say everyone must be equal at work? You act like being assigned work by a supervisor is evil. Do you think you should be able to walk into a new job and be able to tell them how things should be run and vote on it? A lot of work requires experience and supervisors are often people who have such experience and assign you tasks that allowed you to learn the skill as you go. Who are you to tell that guy that he should do it this way or that when he has the skill and experience and you don't? Chomsky, Wolff, Hedges, and Nader don't have a clue how things work at many companies so how can they tell you the workplace should be this or that?
they do have a clue because theyve read about alternatives to capitalism where workers all own, all vote and are unionized

its more just which is what hte bible says
 

Doublestandards

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That's up to God to decide. Slavery as practiced in the United States was evil. It was the way of mankind for millennia but by the time it reached the what is now the U.S. it had gone from enslaving defeated enemies to a wholesale enslavement of one race and justifying it as the right of a superior race to do so. What you don't understand is Christianity came out of a time where slavery was the norm and advanced humanity to the point that they could no longer justify such a practice and were willing to fight and die to end it. However slavery isn't what we have under capitalism today. I know I've used the term "wage slave" but that's a descriptive term only. You are free to work for someone or work for yourself. Or not work at all. Your standard of living is directly tied to the effort you make. You aren't owed anything.
I read a biography that explained Christians actually played a big role in fighting back against slavery. Maybe a small group, but they fought hard, specifically a man with the last name lovejoy
 

Darmark7

Retired 2020. Not my Problem Anymore!

Darmark7

Retired 2020. Not my Problem Anymore!
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