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vantexan

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I'm not sure "remain neutral" is an option when half their country is somewhat aligned with Russia rather than an independent Ukraine.

It's not just external forces, it's internal. Basically the entire world is trying to moderate a civil war/territory dispute.

Never going to end until people accept that.
Maybe 10% of their country.are ethnic Russians.
 

Next Day Err

Well-Known Member
He’s been been plenty mean and rightfully so. But sometimes it’s time to stop. It’s time for the bloodshed to end and have a reset. If an agreement is made, and Russia breaks it maybe everyone will get their wish for World War III.
There’s always a time to give up your land in the face of extortion with no security guarantees. That’s real strength.
 

BigUnionGuy

Got the T-Shirt
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Sportello

Well-Known Member
I'm not sure "remain neutral" is an option when half their country is somewhat aligned with Russia rather than an independent Ukraine.

It's not just external forces, it's internal. Basically the entire world is trying to moderate a civil war/territory dispute.

Never going to end until people accept that.
Now you’re just making things up.
 

Darmark7

Retired 2020. Not my Problem Anymore!
Looks like someone is back from being in banned jail. He/she/they/them should have a lot of talking points to educate us all on. It is nice to have someone that still watches MSM to inform us on what the “outrage of the day“ is.

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Thebrownblob

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Looks like someone is back from being in banned jail. He/she/they/them should have a lot of talking points to educate us all on. It is nice to have someone that still watches MSM to inform us on what the outrage of the day is.

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It’s curious that they don’t want a deal to end the war. Didn’t we try it thier way for the last four years? It got us nowhere and a lot of people killed.
 

Thebrownblob

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The Ukrainians want to give up their land and give us $500 billion worth of extractions with no security guarantees?
Why do you think there would be no security guarantees? Don’t you think that’s being a little silly. especially if American companies are going to be there. Doing the extracting. Come to your senses, my friend this war is over. Let’s give peace a chance first. We can always have World War III later.
 

Next Day Err

Well-Known Member
I'm not sure "remain neutral" is an option when half their country is somewhat aligned with Russia rather than an independent Ukraine.

It's not just external forces, it's internal. Basically the entire world is trying to moderate a civil war/territory dispute.

Never going to end until people accept that.
90% of Ukrainians saw Russia as an enemy in 2023 polls.
 

Darmark7

Retired 2020. Not my Problem Anymore!
I can’t believe a president would lose his temper just because Zelensky asked for more help! The Democrats has to be so ashamed of this. Let’s see all those post how they condemned this horrible action! I bet @Next Day Err has many he will share!

Biden had barely finished telling Zelenskyy he’d just greenlighted another $1 billion in U.S. military assistance for Ukraine when Zelenskyy started listing all the additional help he needed and wasn’t getting. Biden lost his temper, the people familiar with the call said. The American people were being quite generous, and his administration and the U.S. military were working hard to help Ukraine, he said, raising his voice, and Zelenskyy could show a little more gratitude.



 

oldngray

nowhere special
Why do you think there would be no security guarantees? Don’t you think that’s being a little silly. especially if American companies are going to be there. Doing the extracting. Come to your senses, my friend this war is over. Let’s give peace a chance first. We can always have World War III later.
How dare we expect something in return for the $500 billion we already spent!
 

Next Day Err

Well-Known Member
Why do you think there would be no security guarantees? Don’t you think that’s being a little silly. especially if American companies are going to be there. Doing the extracting. Come to your senses, my friend this war is over. Let’s give peace a chance first. We can always have World War III later.
Zelenskyy is claiming no security guarantee has been offered. The White House hasn’t proven him wrong yet.
 

oldngray

nowhere special
I can’t believe a president would lose his temper just because Zelensky asked for more help! The Democrats has to be so ashamed of this. Let’s see all those post how they condemned this horrible action! I bet @Next Day Err has many he will share!

Zelensky could have signed a deal a couple of times in the past weeks but wanted to go to the White House and make a big show about it. After he got there he tried to eff around and got the boot.
 
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