Thebrownblob
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My guess is he didn’t want to start a war? You’re not just going to take back territory from Russia once they have it just like it’s not going to happen now.
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MAKAVELI
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So Obama had the power to stop Russia from taking Crimea, Biden had the power to stop Russia's invasion but Trump only has the power to surrender to Russia? Make that make sense.....
Thebrownblob
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Trump is surrendering? I was unaware that it’s Trump’s war. No Trump is negotiating a peace deal. Biden created this mess TTKU
Next Day Err
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Anything to ensure that Trump seems strong. Nothing he does is weak.
Except his reluctance to implement sanctions. His public fawning over Putin. His public disagreements with the entire U.S. intelligence community that posited that Russia interfered in the 2016 election on his behalf. His constant criticism of NATO allies. His unending attempts to improve relations amidst all the Russian controversies and aggression.
Lenient and WEAK.
Thebrownblob
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One of a few things I agree that Trump is, is strong. One of the things I agree on the left is that Biden was the weakest leader we ever had in history. a complete embarrassment in regards to the view of strength in America. No one and I mean, no one feared or respected Biden not even his own party..
The war never would’ve started with Trump in office that is a guarantee. It’s interesting that Democrats are the ones in charge that keep losing all this land in Ukraine and then blame Republicans.
MAKAVELI
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Trump is demanding no concessions from Putin. If that isn't surrendering, I don't know what is.
Thebrownblob
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No concessions? You have no idea what you’re talking about of course. Pretty much par for the course.
MAKAVELI
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You can't have it both ways. Either you believe all three presidents had the power and interest in stoping Russian aggression or you believe none of them had that power.
Thebrownblob
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If you consider Russia, keeping Donbass a concession you don’t understand reality.
Next Day Err
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Ukranians were literally fighting and dying while Trump was in office. What did Trump do to stop Putin?
Thebrownblob
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Well, how is it worked out so far? If you consider that I care about Ukraine, you’ve considered wrong. Not my fight, not my problem.
Thebrownblob
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The Ukrainians were killing Russians as well. At that point there was plenty of blame to go around and then Russia pull the trigger after Trump left.
Next Day Err
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Ukraine was to blame for Russia attacking and annexing and continuing their violence against Ukraine while Trump was in office?
Thebrownblob
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That seems pretty fair
MAKAVELI
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Maybe Europe should have felt the same about 9/11.
Didn't have time...
Spent 4 years...
Fighting the Libs, Russia, Russia, Russia HOAX...
MAKAVELI
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Had plenty of time to cart his fat ass on the golf course.
Next Day Err
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Putin is happy that we're insisting on an even-steven approach to NATO contributions. Let's take our ball and go home. Who does that help?
Next Day Err
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HE DIDN'T HAVE "TIME" LMAO.
He was spending part of it blackmailing Ukraine for his own personal benefit! LOLOLOL
