THE TRUMP 2024 THREAD
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Next Day Err
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And rub one out to it every chance you get in between posting about it, right buddy?
El Correcto
god is dead
I wasn’t bringing up him thanking the guy.
I brought up Trump’s perspective of himself and a court he personally packed.
He views that as his Supreme Court.
“Trying to divide us”. Bud you’re divided, you are supposed to be divided. You picked people that are supposed to do a job and got confirmed by the senate to do a job. Not to view it as your court.
It was a demand for minerals. After Ukraine has already given up their nukes when that was demanded of them in exchange for protection. So they are asking for something already promised to them that has been repeatedly denied and ignored for going on a decade now, you finally give them the weapons to fight and prolong the war but only enough to put them in a desperate stalemate only to turn around and bend them over a barrel for their natural resources.
BrownFlush
Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
Really? Post the links. Congress is posting what has been going on. DOGE is posting it. There are libel laws you know. So show us who is debunking what?
Sigh, I live in a 2800 sq ft brick house on an acre of land on a lake just outside The Villages. And unlike.you I try to give opinions on various topics. Not looking to attack everyone who knows something about something like you do.
Thebrownblob
Well-Known Member
Interesting you assume Trump’s view of himself and say he “packed” the court? Replacing Supreme Court justices that have retired or died is not packing the court. And they’ve ruled against him just as many times as they ruled in his favor..
Ukraine already got what very little was promised. There is no more obligation on our part.
Ukraine Symposium – The Budapest Memorandum’s History and Role in the Conflict - Lieber Institute West Point
December 2024 marked the 30th anniversary of the signing of the Budapest Memorandum by which Ukraine gave up its nuclear arsenal.
lieber.westpoint.edu
“The Budapest Memorandum is not a treaty and did not reflect any new international legal obligations for any of the signatory States. Rather, the Memorandum was meticulously drafted to avoid giving any impression of legal obligation.
For example, both during the three-year negotiation period and in the drafting of the Memorandum, U.S. State Department officials insisted on using the term “assurances” instead of “guarantees” to describe the security commitments. Although Ukraine initially framed its request as seeking security “guarantees,” the United States wished to avoid this term as it “implied a deeper, even legally-binding commitment.”
“Furthermore, the Memorandum does not use the terms “agree” or “agreement.” Rather, it refers to all commitments as “reaffirmations,” which suggests not new pledges but rather reiteration of prior commitments. These features of the Memorandum and the context of the negotiation more broadly demonstrate that the signatory States—at least the United States and Russia—had no intention “to be bound as a matter of international law, such that non-compliance would amount to an ‘internationally wrongful act’” under the international law of State responsibility. Even the Trilateral Statement”
“Finally, the operative paragraphs of the Budapest Memorandum refer almost exclusively to Ukraine only as an object of the commitments, but never as having obligations. (The one exception is paragraph 6, which states that the signatory States, including Ukraine, “will consult in the event a situation arises that raises a question concerning these commitments”). This further undermines any effort to characterize the Memorandum in legal terms or to refer to it as an agreement (legal or otherwise).”
“The Memorandum is also important because it reminds us of the important distinction between political commitments and legal obligations. When negotiations began, Ukraine “sought legally binding guarantees from the [United States] that it would intervene should Ukraine’s sovereignty be breached.” Although it was forced to settle for less, Ukraine nonetheless has sought to frame the Memorandum in international legal terms, including perhaps by registeringit with the Secretariat of the United Nations in 2014 for inclusion within the UN Treaty Series (although the Treaty Series includes not only treaties but also “international agreements”).”
Trump pointed out to Zelenskyy at the recent press conference that Obama gave Ukraine sheets while Trump gave him missiles. Thanks for the above as every liberal out there has tried to frame it as Trump has reneged on an agreement we had with Ukraine to defend them if they gave up their nukes.Interesting you assume Trump’s view of himself and say he “packed” the court? Replacing Supreme Court justices that have retired or died is not packing the court. And they’ve ruled against him just as many times as they ruled in his favor..
Ukraine already got what very little was promised. There is no more obligation on our part.
Ukraine Symposium – The Budapest Memorandum’s History and Role in the Conflict - Lieber Institute West Point
December 2024 marked the 30th anniversary of the signing of the Budapest Memorandum by which Ukraine gave up its nuclear arsenal.
“The Budapest Memorandum is not a treaty and did not reflect any new international legal obligations for any of the signatory States. Rather, the Memorandum was meticulously drafted to avoid giving any impression of legal obligation.
For example, both during the three-year negotiation period and in the drafting of the Memorandum, U.S. State Department officials insisted on using the term “assurances” instead of “guarantees” to describe the security commitments. Although Ukraine initially framed its request as seeking security “guarantees,” the United States wished to avoid this term as it “implied a deeper, even legally-binding commitment.”
“Furthermore, the Memorandum does not use the terms “agree” or “agreement.” Rather, it refers to all commitments as “reaffirmations,” which suggests not new pledges but rather reiteration of prior commitments. These features of the Memorandum and the context of the negotiation more broadly demonstrate that the signatory States—at least the United States and Russia—had no intention “to be bound as a matter of international law, such that non-compliance would amount to an ‘internationally wrongful act’” under the international law of State responsibility. Even the Trilateral Statement”
“Finally, the operative paragraphs of the Budapest Memorandum refer almost exclusively to Ukraine only as an object of the commitments, but never as having obligations. (The one exception is paragraph 6, which states that the signatory States, including Ukraine, “will consult in the event a situation arises that raises a question concerning these commitments”). This further undermines any effort to characterize the Memorandum in legal terms or to refer to it as an agreement (legal or otherwise).”
“The Memorandum is also important because it reminds us of the important distinction between political commitments and legal obligations. When negotiations began, Ukraine “sought legally binding guarantees from the [United States] that it would intervene should Ukraine’s sovereignty be breached.” Although it was forced to settle for less, Ukraine nonetheless has sought to frame the Memorandum in international legal terms, including perhaps by registeringit with the Secretariat of the United Nations in 2014 for inclusion within the UN Treaty Series (although the Treaty Series includes not only treaties but also “international agreements”).”
UnionStrong
Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
UnionStrong
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UnionStrong
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Next Day Err
Well-Known Member
A look at the misleading and incorrect claims on DOGE's 'wall of receipts'
Elon Musk claims his campaign to fire tens of thousands of federal workers and cancel government contracts is in the name of rooting out “fraud” and “waste.” A website claims they’ve saved billions by cutting certain federal contracts, but reports and government documents prove that these...
www.pbs.org
Guess it’s time to to delete PBS too, right?
Wally
BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
Why not? We have C-span.A look at the misleading and incorrect claims on DOGE's 'wall of receipts'
Elon Musk claims his campaign to fire tens of thousands of federal workers and cancel government contracts is in the name of rooting out “fraud” and “waste.” A website claims they’ve saved billions by cutting certain federal contracts, but reports and government documents prove that these...
Guess it’s time to to delete PBS too, right?
Looked at that. They make claims but don't discuss the specific things DOGE has found that large sums were spent on. Elon Musk has already said they may get things wrong sometimes and will work to rectify that as soon as they become aware. Another issue that's not addressed is that former Congressman, Lee Zeldin, who is now head of the EPA, found in an audit that just before leaving office the Biden administration parked $20 billion of EPA funds in an outside bank with the money to be distributed to just 7 NGO's, some newly created. One was run by none other than Stacey Abrams of Georgia. Heard $7 billion went to her NGO. This is a loophole to distribute money to people who were part of both the Biden and Obama administrations. And will very likely lead to people being charged with crimes. Your Democratic Party is corrupt to the core and is desperately trying to keep the country from finding out. Too late, genie is out of the bottle. If all of this leads to people being charged with crimes then I fully expect that the Dems will scream that the DOJ has been weaponized against them. After what they did to Trump and members of his administration, after allowing protesters in front of conservative justices homes and raiding the homes of abortion protesters and Trump supporters, all I can say is karma is a bitch.A look at the misleading and incorrect claims on DOGE's 'wall of receipts'
Elon Musk claims his campaign to fire tens of thousands of federal workers and cancel government contracts is in the name of rooting out “fraud” and “waste.” A website claims they’ve saved billions by cutting certain federal contracts, but reports and government documents prove that these...
Guess it’s time to to delete PBS too, right?
Next Day Err
Well-Known Member
…for underserved people to replace old inefficient appliances.
Man you are the poster child for a contrarian MAGA.
