THE TRUMP 2024 THREAD

newfie

Well-Known Member
Yes men only left? OR Great patriots stand up? Pick. Perfectly timed for distraction holiday ?
vindman came out of the NSC european desk. It was his fabrications that started the first impeachment.

along with returning the staffing to pre covid levels they probably took a good look at the backgrounds to find and eliminate the next vindmans.
 

Over70irregs

Bans = Control…. Moving on
Less bureaucrats the better
Perhaps or less opinions. History always leads me here regardless of mens words. Math always tells the truth.
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Over70irregs

Bans = Control…. Moving on
Good idea to look beyond the headlines.


5/23/25

Trump shrinks National Security Council in major foreign policy shakeup


"President Trump has ordered massive cuts to the White House National Security Council, sending dozens of policy experts packing on Friday, one of the officials who was let go told NPR.

The official said that the dismissals were abrupt. Staffers were notified at 4:30 p.m. and asked to leave by 5 p.m. "We're all talking among ourselves," the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the situation. The cuts went deep. For example, in the Middle East section, headcount went from 10 staffers to five.

The goal of the overhaul is to eliminate bureaucracy and duplication, with most parts of the operation shifting back to their home departments and agencies

After the cuts, the NSC will be left at approximately the same size it was at the end of Trump's first term".
The last line indicates a circle?
 

Box Ox

Well-Known Member
Good idea to look beyond the headlines.


5/23/25

Trump shrinks National Security Council in major foreign policy shakeup


"President Trump has ordered massive cuts to the White House National Security Council, sending dozens of policy experts packing on Friday, one of the officials who was let go told NPR.

The official said that the dismissals were abrupt. Staffers were notified at 4:30 p.m. and asked to leave by 5 p.m. "We're all talking among ourselves," the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the situation. The cuts went deep. For example, in the Middle East section, headcount went from 10 staffers to five.

The goal of the overhaul is to eliminate bureaucracy and duplication, with most parts of the operation shifting back to their home departments and agencies

After the cuts, the NSC will be left at approximately the same size it was at the end of Trump's first term".
The last line indicates a circle?

I don’t think of a circle when I read the last line.
 

Lineandinitial

Legio patria nostra
Probably is the the English translation. Guess it’s important for him to repeat back what the article says in his own words.
He’s a maroon.
We all read the news and don’t need some nut job reposting things out of context.
He’s a passive aggressive liberal with a bizarre slant on life and….here’s the funny part…. He doesn’t realize what a joke he is making of himself.
He’s that Cessna twin loser that ran off last year. Same stupid writing style.
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
i asked GROK to give me a breakdown of the house spending bill by department :

The "One Big Beautiful Bill Act," referenced in recent legislative discussions, is a comprehensive spending and tax package advanced by House Republicans in May 2025, totaling 1,116 pages. Below is a breakdown of the spending allocations by department or program area based on available information from web sources and posts on X. Note that exact figures for every department are not fully detailed in the provided references, so some extrapolations are made where specific data is unavailable. All figures are approximate and based on the most recent fiscal year context (2024-2025).


Spending Breakdown by Department/Program Area​


  1. Department of Defense (DoD) and National Security
  2. Department of Homeland Security (DHS)
  3. Department of Transportation (DoT)
  4. Department of Agriculture (USDA)
  5. Department of Veterans Affairs (VA)
  6. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS)
  7. Department of Education
    • Allocation: ~$330 billion in student loan program cuts
      https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/whats-inside-the-house-gops-budget-bill-heres-a-look
    • Details:
      • Replaces existing student loan repayment plans with two options: a standard 10-25 year repayment plan and a less generous “repayment assistance” plan.
      • No specific new funding for K-12 or higher education grants mentioned.
    • Context: Focuses on reducing federal liability in student lending, potentially impacting borrower affordability.
  8. Other Departments and Programs

Notes and Limitations​



Summary​


The "One Big Beautiful Bill Act" prioritizes defense ($150 billion new funding), border security (~$10 billion), agriculture (~$60 billion), and transportation ($12.5 billion), while significantly cutting Medicaid ($800 billion) and student loans ($330 billion). Non-defense discretionary spending drops by $13 billion, affecting programs like rural broadband and election security. Veterans’ benefits remain robust (~$526 billion), though VA construction is cut. For a detailed breakdown, visit USAspending.gov or Congress.gov for the full bill text
 

BadIdeaGuy

Keyboard Kenny
Staff member
i asked GROK to give me a breakdown of the house spending bill by department :

The "One Big Beautiful Bill Act," referenced in recent legislative discussions, is a comprehensive spending and tax package advanced by House Republicans in May 2025, totaling 1,116 pages. Below is a breakdown of the spending allocations by department or program area based on available information from web sources and posts on X. Note that exact figures for every department are not fully detailed in the provided references, so some extrapolations are made where specific data is unavailable. All figures are approximate and based on the most recent fiscal year context (2024-2025).


Spending Breakdown by Department/Program Area​


  1. Department of Defense (DoD) and National Security
  2. Department of Homeland Security (DHS)
  3. Department of Transportation (DoT)
  4. Department of Agriculture (USDA)
  5. Department of Veterans Affairs (VA)
  6. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS)
  7. Department of Education
    • Allocation: ~$330 billion in student loan program cuts
      What's inside the House GOP's budget bill? Here's a look
    • Details:
      • Replaces existing student loan repayment plans with two options: a standard 10-25 year repayment plan and a less generous “repayment assistance” plan.
      • No specific new funding for K-12 or higher education grants mentioned.
    • Context: Focuses on reducing federal liability in student lending, potentially impacting borrower affordability.
  8. Other Departments and Programs

Notes and Limitations​


  • Total Spending Context: The bill operates within a FY 2024 federal spending framework of $6.9 trillion, with $4.9 trillion from revenues and the rest borrowed. The "Big Beautiful Bill" emphasizes tax cuts ($5 trillion, offset to ~$3.8 trillion) and spending reductions in non-defense areas.

    What's inside the House GOP's budget bill? Here's a look
  • Data Gaps: Exact allocations for departments like Commerce, Justice, or Energy are not specified in the provided sources. USAspending.gov could provide detailed breakdowns but is not directly quoted here.
  • Discretionary vs. Mandatory: The bill affects discretionary spending (e.g., defense, transportation) and mandatory programs (e.g., Medicaid, student loans). Mandatory spending, like Social Security ($1.2 trillion in FY 2022) and Medicare ($912 billion in FY 2024), remains largely untouched except for Medicaid.

    Expenditures in the United States federal budget - Wikipedia
  • Source Reliability: X posts provide sentiment but are inconclusive without corroboration. Web sources offer more detail but lack comprehensive departmental breakdowns.
    https://x.com/aigov_agent/status/1925528857727135763
    https://x.com/grok/status/1924980831229276317

Summary​


The "One Big Beautiful Bill Act" prioritizes defense ($150 billion new funding), border security (~$10 billion), agriculture (~$60 billion), and transportation ($12.5 billion), while significantly cutting Medicaid ($800 billion) and student loans ($330 billion). Non-defense discretionary spending drops by $13 billion, affecting programs like rural broadband and election security. Veterans’ benefits remain robust (~$526 billion), though VA construction is cut. For a detailed breakdown, visit USAspending.gov or Congress.gov for the full bill text
And I used Claude research.

https://claude.ai/public/artifacts/aab6cdf1-a9de-4674-9f83-c2f38e904463


This is not fiscal conservatism.
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
And I used Claude research.

https://claude.ai/public/artifacts/aab6cdf1-a9de-4674-9f83-c2f38e904463


This is not fiscal conservatism.
what bugs me is for some reason i cant get a total . if the total budget planned spend was 6 trillion last year i want to see what the total spend under this plan would be this year. and then i would love to run the comparison by department this year to last year. I dont know but that maybe part of the problem If you're a department head and you dont have a number you have to stay under then chances are you'll go over it.
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
We need to send more money to defense contractors.
i think the excess spending issue is a whole lot more complicated than that. When DOGE audited the treasury records they found the treasury was not even using basic accounting methods. So they were sending checks out and never recorded who it was for, what appropriation plan it was under or even who requested it. that means anyone working in government in a leadership position could literally request a check be cut and sent to some one or some organization without being questioned , challenged or required to justify it.
 
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