Total Service Plan (TSP)

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Why not? That's what negotiations are for.


But you can't do it with the scheduling concessions the company will suggest instead of weekend drivers. The T-S guys will get pissed, the Wed-Sun or Sun-Thurs guys will get pissed, they'll quit, the rest of us will keep working 60 hrs, and we'll quit or get injured. It's a lose, lose, lose proposition. Might as well lose the least possible.

Obviously you wasn't here for the strike of 97.
The goal is to get more full-time jobs not less

 

[zubenelgenubi]

Obviously you wasn't here for the strike of 97.
The goal is to get more full-time jobs not less

Make it full time designation with opportunity for full time hours, but not required or guaranteed. The alternatives are worse.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Make it full time designation with opportunity for full time hours, but not required or guaranteed. The alternatives are worse.

Do you forget who we work for?
Have you not seen how they views of 22.4 combo flex BS drivers.
The stuff you were saying exactly what the company wants and not what the union is going to fight for this contract
It's your future not mine

 

[zubenelgenubi]

Do you forget who we work for?
Have you not seen how they views of 22.4 combo flex BS drivers.
The stuff you were saying exactly what the company wants and not what the union is going to fight for this contract
It's your future not mine

What I propose addresses all the issues and offers the best path forward. You just want all of us to work ourselves to death. Not much of a future there.

 

[MECH-lift]

can’t we just start earlier

I remember being at my first stop at 8:30

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

What I propose addresses all the issues and offers the best path forward. You just want all of us to work ourselves to death. Not much of a future there.

Race to the bottom

 

[zubenelgenubi]

Race to the bottom

Of the grave, yes. That's what I want to avoid. I already addressed your concerns, you just want everyone to work themselves to death or have to quit.

 

[burrheadd]

Of the grave, yes. That's what I want to avoid. I already addressed your concerns, you just want everyone to work themselves to death or have to quit.

Low seniority folks gonna need to get used to Tuesday-Saturday
UPS gonna have to pay them enough to make it worth their while

 

[zubenelgenubi]

Low seniority folks gonna need to get used to Tuesday-Saturday
UPS gonna have to pay them enough to make it worth their while

They'll quit, like they have been. Then the M-Fri guys will be forced in on saturday, and then quit, or drop dead from over work. Not a good long term solution.

 

[MECH-lift]

Does TSP go into peak?

 

[MECH-lift]

@MECH-lift doesn’t work Saturdays during peak

 

[zubenelgenubi]

Does TSP go into peak?

No, the plan is to finally dial it in by the week before peak starts. Then, they'll abandon it to start working on peak planning that they should have been doing the last three months. After we get caught up from peak, next March, they'll have forgotten all about TSP.

 

[burrheadd]

They'll quit, like they have been. Then the M-Fri guys will be forced in on saturday, and then quit, or drop dead from over work. Not a good long term solution.

Feeders been doing it for years

Pay them enough and they’ll show up

 

[iowa boy]

its just a calculator; if you don't like the solution, the PDS can change the inputs

you have a bad PDS

I have asked our PDS about this and, according to him, he has very little input to make changes in the solutions. I want to know how I'm supposed to run 15 to 18 stops per hour running rural routes on gravel roads?

 

[burrheadd]

I have asked our PDS about this and, according to him, he has very little input to make changes in the solutions. I want to know how I'm supposed to run 15 to 18 stops per hour running rural routes on gravel roads?

Hammer down

 

[iowa boy]

Hammer down

Nope, get paid by the hour. Safety first!!

 

[MECH-lift]

ah strike soon

 

[TearsInRain]

I have asked our PDS about this and, according to him, he has very little input to make changes in the solutions. I want to know how I'm supposed to run 15 to 18 stops per hour running rural routes on gravel roads?

he's lying to you

 

[TearsInRain]

My terrible solutions are a direct result of the inappropriately low time allowances on my route. The system says It's a 6 hour dispatch, but It's 10 hours of work, Orion can't figure out how to do all the stops efficiently. It gets worse the more stops they give me. The miles just keep going up, up, up.

this can also be adjusted by the pds

 

[TearsInRain]

The true problem is that there is not enough time for the PDS to do all the things required for a successful dispatch everyday.

*for the average UPS PDS, i'd agree

the problem is many (stupid) managers see the PDS job as a dumping ground for their weakest ORS, not realizing all the studs throwing on browns can't fix a bad dispatch out of the gate

for a PDS that 'gets' the job, there is plenty of time