True Colors

[Bubblehead]

Ok.

Remember.....I pay dues for Union representation. Yes, they negotiated our contract and are paid for it(by me).....with no complaints from me. For 40 years.

Now Chief.....you do realize UPS PAID FOR THAT INSURANCE.....not the UNION. OBAMA HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

I had this insurance when OBAMA was still smoking weed in Hawaii.

I work for my benefits. Union doesn't give me ANYTHING! I pay for it. UPS provides it.

Now about DRIVE.....the Union is a Democrat left wing/communist organization.....this is settled history. DRIVE is a political weapon used directly against me. Settled history.

You would be wrong about about me being able to fly a "plan".....I'll take that bet. Anytime anywhere. Matter of fact....I'll fly up in my own "plan" and collect the money.

Jealousy and inadequacy fuel hate(like you). It's no wonder indeed.

Do you know what DRIVE stands for?

You ( I as you put it) are one of many to collect what was negotiated on your behalf.

You ( I as you put it) have what you have due to what was earned collectively by the sacrifices, sweat and toil of those who did the job before you and those who do it now.

You ( I as you put it) are but one in this equation and WE have zero tolerance for your stolen valor.

 

[Swanson]

And there is NO way UPS will pay for it.

I don't see that going well for them,do you think the poor minorities that work in the warehouse can afford to pay for a test each week?UPS has a problem getting people to work for them for an extended period of time.I work in South Central LA UPS pays us minimum wage,the majority of the hub are people of color most unvaxxed.

 

[quad decade guy]

Do you know what DRIVE stands for?

You ( I as you put it) are one of many to collect what was negotiated on your behalf.

You ( I as you put it) have what you have due to what was earned collectively by the sacrifices, sweat and toil of those who did the job before you and those who do it now.

You ( I as you put it) are but one in this equation and WE have zero tolerance for your stolen valor.

Stolen valor? Huh?

I stated clearly.....I pay my dues. Clearly also earned my benefits. Never said no other person does...This is so odd.

Btw, DRIVE can "stand" for whatever it is "supposed" to be...

However the money is used as a political weapon against me and my political beliefs....directly. It helped Biden get elected and so ironically contributed to the vaccine mandates....of which UPS workers are directly impacted....possibly being terminated. No? You aren't paying attention.

Zero tolerance? So?

Again, UPS pays for my insurance, job etc. I pay the Unions salary. They actually work for me...and many others. It's fascinating how this gets twisted around.

Don't lecture me about hard work and sacrifice.

 

[quad decade guy]

I don't see that going well for them,do you think the poor minorities that work in the warehouse can afford to pay for a test each week?UPS has a problem getting people to work for them for an extended period of time.I work in South Central LA UPS pays us minimum wage,the majority of the hub are people of color most unvaxxed.

Really?

The fine for UPS will be $14k per worker...I think. So, UPS will start paying $500k a month for testing.....or whatever the numbers....I agree somewhat of your statement.

UPS has a big problem.

 

[Swanson]

Really?

The fine for UPS will be $14k per worker...I think. So, UPS will start paying $500k a month for testing.....or whatever the numbers....I agree somewhat of your statement.

UPS has a big problem.

It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.It seems like political suicide with the mid terms coming up.As well as the strong possibility of severing the fragile supply chain line,the lawlessness from loss of first responders and destroying the economy.(seems all by design IMO)

 

[quad decade guy]

It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.It seems like political suicide with the mid terms coming up.As well as the strong possibility of severing the fragile supply chain line,the lawlessness from loss of first responders and destroying the economy.(seems all by design IMO)

Well, now you are suggesting a conspiracy.....in broad, clear daylight.

Tell us more..Serious request.

Btw, all this seems to be a strange way to win friends and influence people...the Democrats tactics. Clearly, they think in the end....Democrats will be in power. Pitting groups against each other. Finally creating a Communist/Socialist utopia. 71 % have already said we are going in the wrong direction....

 

[Bubblehead]

Stolen valor? Huh?

I stated clearly.....I pay my dues. Clearly also earned my benefits. Never said no other person does...This is so odd.

Neither of us stated you didn't pay your dues or "earn" your benefits???

I only asserted that you would have none of them without your brothers and sisters, while you continually represent yourself as a "self-made man".

Btw, DRIVE can "stand" for whatever it is "supposed" to be...

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However the money is used as a political weapon against me and my political beliefs....directly. It helped Biden get elected and so ironically contributed to the vaccine mandates....of which UPS workers are directly impacted....possibly being terminated. No? You aren't paying attention.

It's not used against you, it is used to lobby for labor issues, why wouldn't it be???

....and I think you would be surprised by how the money has been spent and who got what.

Zero tolerance? So?

You create opportunities to educate and reinforce....our force.

Again, UPS pays for my insurance, job etc. I pay the Unions salary. They actually work for me...and many others. It's fascinating how this gets twisted around.

Finally something we can agree on.

....because unless you are full of , you have done quite well???

 

[Integrity]

I will support their decision to not be vaccinated.

It is a personal decision that comes with many known and unknown consequences.

Because these consequences can be life altering I encourage everyone to make the most informed, objective decision for themselves as I believe I have.

I have been fully vaccinated against Covid-19.

I encourage anyone who exercises their right to choose to not be vaccinated to stand by their principles and to gracefully accept all consequences for their decision to not cooperate with the mandate.

If it turns out that jobs are lost, I will respect and support their decision to give up their employment for their decision to choose to not be vaccinated against Covid-19.

 

[olroadbeech]

Thought this was about a potential strike for next contract.

Now we have to have a poll about every little issue?

 

[PT 4 Life]

Ups isn’t going to waste money to get its employees tested weekly.

 

[nWo]

You'd have to be a real idiot to get fired over this.

 

[quad decade guy]

You'd have to be a real idiot to get fired over this.

Oh?

How so?

I see A LOT of idiots at UPS.....Mgt. on down.

All we have in the end is freedom of choice. To truly be free.

This issue may not bother you. But I'd bet you'd be willing to go down swinging on some issue.

You do realize for all intents and purposes.....there is a gun to your head on this.....not physically(right now)..........but there will be........all totalitarian regimes must be enforced by threat of death.....otherwise there will never be compliance by the oppressed. This is settled history.

No?

We are being herded.......do you ever wonder why? Think long and hard about that.

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

Thought this was about a potential strike for next contract.

Now we have to have a poll about every little issue?

You aren't forced to take part in this thread. Surely you could stay busy with that business of yours. Lol.

 

[DELACROIX]

Ups isn’t going to waste money to get its employees tested weekly.

A lot easier and cheaper to put them to "Sleep"...

 

[Treegrower]

Ok.

Remember.....I pay dues for Union representation. Yes, they negotiated our contract and are paid for it(by me).....with no complaints from me. For 40 years.

Now Chief.....you do realize UPS PAID FOR THAT INSURANCE.....not the UNION. OBAMA HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

I had this insurance when OBAMA was still smoking weed in Hawaii.

I work for my benefits. Union doesn't give me ANYTHING! I pay for it. UPS provides it.

Now about DRIVE.....the Union is a Democrat left wing/communist organization.....this is settled history. DRIVE is a political weapon used directly against me. Settled history.

You would be wrong about about me being able to fly a "plan".....I'll take that bet. Anytime anywhere. Matter of fact....I'll fly up in my own "plan" and collect the money.

Jealousy and inadequacy fuel hate(like you). It's no wonder indeed.

You are so flipping dumb. I don’t know why I bother to respond really. You do know that there is no company health plan for union hourly employees right? The company does not supply you with health care. Do you know that? It’s negotiated with the union and then administered by the union. You do know that, right? The company got out of the health insurance business. Quite a while ago actually.
And…. You are so flipping dumb that you don’t realize that Obama did have something to do with it. Obama Care specifically outlawed and eliminated lifetime caps on insurance payments and preexisting conditions so that someone like your wife wouldn’t be hung out to dry with no insurance coverage or medical bills that would bankrupt you. You had insurance before Obama care that’s true, but now it’s codified and strengthen to protect you and your wife.
I’d like to tell you to go fly your plane but again, I’m sure you can’t even fly a kite.

 

[nWo]

If you choose to walk away from your job over this then go ahead. That's your choice.

 

[satellitedriver]

You are so flipping dumb. I don’t know why I bother to respond really. You do know that there is no company health plan for union hourly employees right? The company does not supply you with health care. Do you know that? It’s negotiated with the union and then administered by the union. You do know that, right? The company got out of the health insurance business. Quite a while ago actually.
And…. You are so flipping dumb that you don’t realize that Obama did have something to do with it. Obama Care specifically outlawed and eliminated lifetime caps on insurance payments and preexisting conditions so that someone like your wife wouldn’t be hung out to dry with no insurance coverage or medical bills that would bankrupt you. You had insurance before Obama care that’s true, but now it’s codified and strengthen to protect you and your wife.
I’d like to tell you to go fly your plane but again, I’m sure you can’t even fly a kite.

Your words;
"Obama Care specifically outlawed and eliminated lifetime caps on insurance payments and preexisting conditions so that someone like your wife wouldn’t be hung out to dry".
You had insurance before Obama care that’s true, but now it’s codified and strengthen to protect you and your wife."
In the real world it did not work out that way.

The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, also known as the Affordable Care Act (ACA) or Obamacare, was passed on March 21, 2010, and signed into law by President Barack Obama on March 23, 2010. The law required most individuals to obtain health insurance and required most employers to offer it. with no insurance coverage or medical bills that would bankrupt you.
The unemployed could not afford it, or even in some cases attain it, but it played to the masses and garnered votes.
That was the great democratic 3 Act play.
The three-act structure is a model used in narrative fiction that divides a story into three parts (acts), often called the Setup, the Confrontation, and the Resolution.

You seem to be flying a kite without a string attached.
Happy landings.

 

[Red Devil]

The unemployed could not afford it, or even in some cases attain it

The word you are looking for is obtain, not attain.

 

[quad decade guy]

You are so flipping dumb. I don’t know why I bother to respond really. You do know that there is no company health plan for union hourly employees right? The company does not supply you with health care. Do you know that? It’s negotiated with the union and then administered by the union. You do know that, right? The company got out of the health insurance business. Quite a while ago actually.
And…. You are so flipping dumb that you don’t realize that Obama did have something to do with it. Obama Care specifically outlawed and eliminated lifetime caps on insurance payments and preexisting conditions so that someone like your wife wouldn’t be hung out to dry with no insurance coverage or medical bills that would bankrupt you. You had insurance before Obama care that’s true, but now it’s codified and strengthen to protect you and your wife.
I’d like to tell you to go fly your plane but again, I’m sure you can’t even fly a kite.

Never said there was a "Company Health Plan"...

OMG.......you are so flipping...OBTUSE.

FOLLOW THE MONEY....

UPS paid the MONEY.

Again, I've been here since 1981..........read that carefully.....I had insurance then as now......OBAMA had nothing to do with it.

The Union is just an administrator and are paid for that. So.....they are are just a beneficiary parasite.

I will have NO INSURANCE when I retire....nothing....... That is being "hung out to dry....".

That's your vaunted Union.

UPS provides the insurance(with MONEY!). Not the Union. Without UPS...no union....no insurance.....get the dots straight.

Now, you've stuck your substantial foot in your alligator mouth.

If you weren't so hateful.....so intent on attacking me personally....

You might...just might see.....how things actually work/are.

Now for flying....I flew(yes, my own plane) yesterday. How about you?(smiles at that one...)

 

[quad decade guy]

The word you are looking for is obtain, not attain.

Attain: "succeed in reaching".....I'd say that works.....obtain better.

Shrug.