Trump Tariffs has Countries ready to retaliate?

vantexan

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I feel like we have to be having a misunderstanding of words or something

Trump threatened and put the tarrifs in place first. Canada and Mexico retaliated. Trump ended it, so Canada and Mexico followed, because they had nothing to RETALIATE against.

Trump ended it, because of the agreement, but as shown, that plan from Canada was made in 2024 was already being put in place. You can see the statement of plans from 2024, and as you now said it’s still 1.3 not 1.6. Nothing changed there.
Announced in Dec '24 but not implemented yet.
 

Doublestandards

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So what you're telling me is we might have gotten 25 million new illegals in the last four years if not for the noble efforts of Mexico to keep it down to 12 or so million. Meanwhile Biden rescinded Trump's "remain in Mexico" policy, taking in hundreds of thousands a month, flying in hundreds of thousands from other countries, flying and bussing people all over the country and housing them with food and healthcare that was costing the country billions a month. And many were criminals in their own countries and committed numerous crimes here including extremely heinous acts. Yet y'all try to spin it.
All im showing you is that these agreements and plans were already put in place. The Canada one is cut and dry, you can see the plan from 2024. The dollar amount is the exact same

Trumps plan with Mexico is the same as Biden’s, even to the amount of showers, 10,000. One difference is Trump doesn’t have the other countries in place also, and maybe they’ll be going to a different side of the border now? But again that doesn’t make sense since Trump claims the border is secure now, so they’d be better off on the opposite side of Mexico’s border
 

Doublestandards

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Announced in Dec '24 but not implemented yet.
Ok, so Trump got him to implement a plan that was already set to be implemented. Brilliant negotiator

Maybe if he got him to bump it from 1.3 to 1.6 like you initatlly mistaken happened, but not even that. I just don’t see what Trump got out of it. But whatever, no tries now, I’ll pretend trump won
 

vantexan

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All im showing you is that these agreements and plans were already put in place. The Canada one is cut and dry, you can see the plan from 2024. The dollar amount is the exact same

Trumps plan with Mexico is the same as Biden’s, even to the amount of showers, 10,000. One difference is Trump doesn’t have the other countries in place also, and maybe they’ll be going to a different side of the border now? But again that doesn’t make sense since Trump claims the border is secure now, so they’d be better off on the opposite side of Mexico’s border
Trump has a remain in Mexico policy, which Biden rescinded. And we now have a deportation policy that won't allow people.to come in and wait for their hearing. So very few are coming up now. The 10,000 troops now is primarily about keeping the cartels from smuggling drugs.
 

DriveInDriѵeOut

Inordinately Right
The 10,000 troops now is primarily about keeping the cartels from smuggling drugs.
Don't fall for DoubleSTD's lies.
Mexico never sent 10,000 troops to their northern border, they sent them to their southern border

Huge difference.
These people just lie because they hate seeing Trump win so much for this country
 

Doublestandards

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Don't fall for DoubleSTD's lies.
Mexico never sent 10,000 troops to their northern border, they sent them to their southern border

Huge difference.
These people just lie because they hate seeing Trump win so much for this country
I never said they sent all 10,000 to the northern border. Mexico already had 10,000 troops. At their southern border but also the northern border alongside America. Mexico had troops at the northern and southern border.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Don't fall for DoubleSTD's lies.
Mexico never sent 10,000 troops to their northern border, they sent them to their southern border

Huge difference.
These people just lie because they hate seeing Trump win so much for this country
Not falling for anything. During Trump's first term Mexico was cooperative because Trump pressured them. Biden didn't and they did very little to slow down the influx. Double is trying to spin it all into no big deal about the border. Can't admit it was the biggest issue of the election, or maybe the second after inflation. I know you know this, just putting it out there for his benefit.
 

vantexan

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I never said they sent all 10,000 to the northern border. Mexico already had 10,000 troops. At their southern border but also the northern border alongside America. Mexico had troops at the northern and southern border.
Where were they actively trying to stop crossing into the U.S.?
 

Doublestandards

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Not falling for anything. During Trump's first term Mexico was cooperative because Trump pressured them. Biden didn't and they did very little to slow down the influx. Double is trying to spin it all into no big deal about the border. Can't admit it was the biggest issue of the election, or maybe the second after inflation. I know you know this, just putting it out there for his benefit.
I’m not trying to downplay Biden’s border or saying he did it better than Trump

I’m saying that Trump really didn’t get much more out of these negotiations, especially for the the stakes he was holding against them

I showed you that the Canada plan was set up since last year and that it’s still 1.3 not 1.6, there was nothing significant more that Trump got out of this “negotiation”

No one could even justify why he was setting up tarrifs for Canada in the first place, and when you ask dido about it he started crying and saying he didn’t want to talk about it, only Mexico
 

vantexan

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Tamaulipas and Nuevo León for sure, along with troops along the southern border. Mexico was actually stopping and deporting quite a few people
And yet most of the influx came through Texas. That's a lot if people in four years. Mexico was letting in people from at least 180 countries to go to the turnstiles on the Rio Grande. There's absolutely no comparison between the last administration and this one over border security.
 

Doublestandards

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Why are you giving me thumbs down?
Don’t take it personal, he once gave the thumbs down to a comment someone posted that only said the words “Jesus”. Not in reply to anything, just “Jesus”.

He spams the button in a snowflake fury and probably didn’t even realize it was you. Can barely respond to him because can’t see his comments because have to scroll past all the thumbs down notifications
 

Box Ox

Well-Known Member
I for one am totally bummed. There’s no fentanyl to be found anywhere near here! This is very disruptive.

July 14, 2023

Governor Murphy Signs Bipartisan Resolution Designating July 14 as ‘Fentanyl Poisoning Awareness Day’​


As fentanyl continues to be the leading substance in New Jersey’s overdose crisis and has contributed to the tragic deaths of thousands of New Jersey residents, Governor Phil Murphy today signed a bipartisan resolution to designate an annual ‘Fentanyl Poisoning Awareness Day’ in our state.

As part of the Administration’s ongoing efforts to prevent overdoses and combat the effects of the opioid crisis on our communities, this resolution aims to help raise awareness about the dangers of fentanyl and honor the lives lost to this substance.”
 

oldngray

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July 14, 2023

Governor Murphy Signs Bipartisan Resolution Designating July 14 as ‘Fentanyl Poisoning Awareness Day’​


As fentanyl continues to be the leading substance in New Jersey’s overdose crisis and has contributed to the tragic deaths of thousands of New Jersey residents, Governor Phil Murphy today signed a bipartisan resolution to designate an annual ‘Fentanyl Poisoning Awareness Day’ in our state.

As part of the Administration’s ongoing efforts to prevent overdoses and combat the effects of the opioid crisis on our communities, this resolution aims to help raise awareness about the dangers of fentanyl and honor the lives lost to this substance.”
 
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