oldngray
nowhere special
Ask your steward to help you fill out the grievance.
Unjust / progressive discipline
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scoutlover
Well-Known Member
Our steward doesn't really help on the "caught red handed" ones. That's why I was asking. I almost started a thread asking about that but then saw this one. It doesn't pertain to me, I've just noticed a lot of warning letters of late and no one is grieving them.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
Your steward is a wise man.
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OLDMAN3
Guest
You can still grieve the discipline if you feel it in unusually harsh for a slight offence, or if they failed to use progressive discipline, or if you feel it is harassment/treated differently than others for same offence.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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In other words, you can screw up and then try to hide behind the contract.
The contract Is in place,to keep the "evil sups" from unjust discipline.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
...and to protect the slugs...
Sometimes,It works that way. Its just like car insurance,it covers both good and bad drivers.
I seem to remember that you have been accused of 'hiding behind the contract' once or twice.
Care to share the details or categorically deny?
PT Car Washer
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You can always protest that it should have a verbal warning instead of a written warning.
Bottom rung
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Grieve,every single warning letter,no matter what.
Only ever had one stick,and yes it was justified. The rest got thrown away,like they should have!
scooby0048
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Maybe it's just me but I think a warning letter seems harsh for not blowing a horn. Granted if we all followed the methods perfectly, there would be no need for the safety rides or observations but as humans and adults, we also know that the methods will never be followed perfectly.
It's like the company wants to get the packages deliver at all costs but yet they will do everything in their power to discipline and get rid of drivers. Then again, I just had an epiphany..that could be part of the master plan, then they would save billions not having to pay full rate with all the turnover.
Different rules applied,unevenly.
Mugarolla
Light 'em up!
They don't have to give a verbal first, but by grieving it this way, the grievance will be heard.
OPTION3
Well-Known Member
ask your mother
scoutlover
Well-Known Member
Now that's what I was looking for. Thanks!
Covemastah
Hoopah drives the boat Chief !!
Is this the best they could come up with ?? The Horn !!!! Please are these the same morons who ate loads last peak ,lied to the customers, took on to much work, let drivers stay out till 10 pm fudged all kinds of numbers !!!! I would of torn it up in the little deebs face !!!!
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
A warning letter is just something to wipe yourwith.
A warning letter is the first step, in progressive discipline.
It's not wise to blow it off.
Always protest every warning letter with a grievance.
Protesting the company's position, is your contractual right.
They have been known to make mistakes.
And if the issue progresses, the first question an arbitrator or a Panel would ask....
Did you protest the warning letter ? If not, why ?
It wouldn't help your case.... if you said, you deserved it.
I was wondering why you highlighted that.
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Mugarolla
Light 'em up!
It really does no good. Unless they withdraw it, you still have a warning letter. Protesting it does not stop the next step in progressive discipline.
Yes, grieve the stupid ones. But if you are observed by 2 management people not wearing your seatbelt, grieving that warning letter could bring that big spotlight right over your head. I sure hope you do everything by the methods or there will be more warning letters coming your way.
And if you are not worried because you do everything by the book, why did you get a warning letter for in the first place? I'm sure you know how vindiction management can be.
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