Well with my 30 plus years as a union member, I assure you, I have fought many battles from the pits of hell . LOL, and comparing me to Fred , shows your ignorance. I've watched yours and lead bell'ys post for a long time, never been impressed at all. I have more experience than you 2 put together. " it's better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak up and remove all doubt " there is a good lesson in that saying,,,, for myself as well. I'm not here to bash anyone. But I remember what a strong local and international we once had. I'm not bashing Hoffa, at one time he was a fighter. No Office, no matter what it is,,,serves the people well without term limits. CHANGE is good.