LagunaBrown
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Funny. We just call the center and they send help. Nothing gets missed and guys get their 8hr requests.
UPS and IBT are in bed together
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LagunaBrown
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2 hours penalty pay (over $70 per violation). If they are even 1 click over they pay here. We have over 100 drivers in our center so we have a high volume of 8 hour requests daily. It would cost them thousands of dollars a month if they tried to violate the language. That's something bubblehead can't comprehend.
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Sheep DAWG
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Yea, well where we're at....you file for your penalty pay, our center managers refuses to pay the grievance , our Buisness Agent takes 8 months to a year to hear the grievance and by that time the member has retaliated discipline for bull crap trumpedal up violations and you get offered to get your penalty pay and serve 5 day suspension which will cost you over a grand or drop it...you call that a choice...stfu. we've even taken it too the panew proving it and lost.... that's why we are saying it's a bs Situation with the Union now ...I'm telling you for the last time igmo. ..ive been here over 30 years and didn't use to be that way. ...so you can take up for the guys in office all you want too. The members arn't idiots
Sheep DAWG
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Our Center Manager Even Told our shop steward....file grievances all you want too because UPS has a deal with the union to cover the BA's pensions and when he goes to the panel, that the panel will ask him a few tough questions to make the member feel like they are getting a fair shake, but that in the end, the panel will rule for the company in all retaliation, and harassment cases...tell me the last time a manager got found guilty of harassment or retaliation in the Atlantic Area Grievance Panel. .....that's right...truth is awesome. ..now come back with one of your 5 year old kid come backs...you act like the drivers don't hear back from panel rulings. You know everybody has a smart phone now. ....
LagunaBrown
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Sorry but I don't believe you, there is a grievance procedure and even with postponements it would never take 8 - 12 months to hear a grievances. 8 hour requests and 9.5 violations are easy wins in panel and the company pays them at the local level because the have lost so many times. Anytime a center manager says to file all the grievances we want labor and HR gets on his butt because all the money they have to pay and all the article 37 grievances on the management team makes it look like they can't do their job.
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hyena
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Hey we're making progress, you didn't call me a tdu troll in that post.Would you prefer the previous Article 17-i.... language ?
Total newbie. Or, troll.
It is good language. Options, are beneficial.
Why would anyone.... try and dictate (to another member)
How much money, they are afforded to make ??
If you are a pkg car driver, and don't want the hours....
Sign the 9.5 list.
What contract language, is that ?
I haven't read that part.
What provision, of your Rider.... says that ?
Meh.
Shemp Dawg....
Is now confirmed as a Troll.
Muscle up.... Brown Cafe Teamsters.
If Bubble can do it, so can you.
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twoweeled
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At your hub. The driver files, we look at the payroll, it shows your over 8 hours (and you have 8 hour request) The company is paying these grievances?
Is this based on hours worked, or planned day?
upsbrown-2009
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Lol at least y'all get a sorry !
upsbrown-2009
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Sounds as if you are getting real support in the Central!
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Sounds to me like the customer is the one getting screwed in the end.
Coldworld
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That's on mgt for continuing loading up drivers day after day...
upsbrown-2009
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I assure u I to for years watch these same kind of grievances stall to only be paid in the last quarter! Some are from January. By this time the majority have had some trumpeted up discipline to trade for lesser pay or withdrawn all together. The 4th quarter has the highest earnings , so this is when they settle grievances of pay. It has been going on for the last 5 to 6 years.
hyena
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It should be hours worked ,Planned day is bs. That's why the union doesn't recognize numbers. I'd love to see how they come up with their plans.
Coldworld
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It's a joke ... I've heard that out of a fricken center managers mouth...
LagunaBrown
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Hours worked. The Union does not recognize "their" numbers. "Their" numbers are an encentive program based on company policy. We are hourly employees.
LagunaBrown
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if you let them horse trade that is nobody's fault but your own.
Whatbrownwontdoforyou
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What do you feel the remedy should be if the panel ruled in your favor in a harrassment grievence........in my opinion the only grievences that ups cares about are the ones in which they have to pay members(9.5,sups working,8 hour)
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Relocation, demotion, or, in extreme cases, termination of the sup in question.
Bubblehead
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"Company will comply with Art 37" is the decision I would be looking for, but good luck with that one, as the Company certainly cares about preventing such a decision.
That's why they always try to settle these harassment grievances locally, without admitting guilt.
The Company only cares about decisions that attach liability now, or in the future.
Any Labor Manager or Company Panel member worth his weight in salt will fight diligently to prevent that decision from being levied in such a harassment grievance.
Although no money is immediately attached in a decision like that, it certainly has "ongoing liability" for the Company.
