UPS Plans to Cut Non-Driver Jobs to Mitigate Union Labor Costs

[Red Devil]

20 extra stops per driver after adjusting for increased paid day, that's how

We are accomplishing that in spite of Orion. Not because of it

 

[Ou812fu]

Supposedly he said sporh has gone up 2 or 3 stops or per hour
We could probably bankrupt the company if we all ran Orion 100% every day.

This is the dimwits they are putting in these positions. No ship Sherlock. The sphor will go up when you have less business stops and less packages at each business stop. Man where do they get these people from?

 

[Brown Circus]

I was part of the early team that developed ORION and it worked EXTREMELY well. In the test locations, the TRAINED management team updated the map data and route configurations daily to make sure the answers made sense.

It was said back then that ORION was like a fine violin that needs to be kept in tune every day. If this is not done, you end up with very, very expensive garbage, which is where UPS is today.

ORION is not a technology failure. I have seen it work very effectively over and over with my own eyes. It is an implementation and accountability failure. When the shine dulls on ORION in a center and the center team loses focus, it goes VERY bad VERY quickly, and setting it right is daunting.

A fine violin that wants us to preform a three point turn around in the middle of residential streets after every stop. The damn thing is dangerous and could get some poor kid killed.

 

[Ou812fu]

20 extra stops per driver after adjusting for increased paid day, that's how

Every driver in here should look at this and understand that this person could care less how many people suffered heat strokes this year. They also could care less how many people died this summer from this thought process.

Also, Orion has not made the company any money. A company can't make a billion out of thin air. The cost of the system would be 9 dollars a day savings on every driver driving. Just to even out the 1billion in buying it. Not to mention the cost of up keep. This person is full of it. Or they are drinking the 151 coolaid .

 

[RangerMan06]

Every driver in here should look at this and understand that this person could care less how many people suffered heat strokes this year. They also could care less how many people died this summer from this thought process.

Also, Orion has not made the company any money. A company can't make a billion out of thin air. The cost of the system would be 9 dollars a day savings on every driver driving. Just to even out the 1billion in buying it. Not to mention the cost of up keep. This person is full of it. Or they are drinking the 151 coolaid .

I'm still out delivering because of ORION

 

[cynz]

Same in our building, automation created more jobs lol.

 

[Brown Circus]

Every driver in here should look at this and understand that this person could care less how many people suffered heat strokes this year. They also could care less how many people died this summer from this thought process.

Also, Orion has not made the company any money. A company can't make a billion out of thin air. The cost of the system would be 9 dollars a day savings on every driver driving. Just to even out the 1billion in buying it. Not to mention the cost of up keep. This person is full of it. Or they are drinking the 151 coolaid .

Correct. We spend way more time in the back of the 130 degree trucks as a result of Orion and I believe one could put the blame squarely on it seeing as how I don’t remember hearing about drivers dying from heat stroke as often before this ingnorant crap was implemented

 

[Brownwind]

Every driver in here should look at this and understand that this person could care less how many people suffered heat strokes this year. They also could care less how many people died this summer from this thought process.

Also, Orion has not made the company any money. A company can't make a billion out of thin air. The cost of the system would be 9 dollars a day savings on every driver driving. Just to even out the 1billion in buying it. Not to mention the cost of up keep. This person is full of it. Or they are drinking the 151 coolaid .

Sorry about the confusion. Speaking for us thirty year plus drivers. I can beat the trace any day at any time half conscious. The trace is just a suggestion and is used as a guide for the inexperienced drivers.
We all know that we can get rid of dozens of stops at noon in town. Also another dozen stops at the school bus stop where everyone meets. Saving sixty plus miles and thirty stops equals a shorter day.
For all the runners who are destroying our company cutting corners. SMARTEN UP…
Service is our last name.

 

[catstalking]

We are accomplishing that in spite of Orion. Not because of it

nope, that's the increase

 

[catstalking]

Every driver in here should look at this and understand that this person could care less how many people suffered heat strokes this year. They also could care less how many people died this summer from this thought process.

cry me a river commie

Also, Orion has not made the company any money. A company can't make a billion out of thin air. The cost of the system would be 9 dollars a day savings on every driver driving. Just to even out the 1billion in buying it. Not to mention the cost of up keep. This person is full of it. Or they are drinking the 151 coolaid .

so if drivers deliver more and we cut staffing, we somehow don't make any money?

that's some serious mental gymnastics, you should work in government you'd do well

 

[RangerMan06]

cry me a river commie

so if drivers deliver more and we cut staffing, we somehow don't make any money?

that's some serious mental gymnastics, you should work in government you'd do well

You haven't cut staffing and we are hiring hourly in record numbers and overtime is through the roof

 

[dudebro]

PAL system to eliminate misloads, RFID to eliminate misloads from the PAL system, ORION etc. Yeah technology is great. But no substitute for an experienced and trained human.

The PAL system wasn't installed to reduce misloads. It was for preload flexibility (I don't have to put one entire ZIP code on a primary belt to reduce "knowledge units") and a huge reduction in the amount of training a preloader needed to load package cars.

 

[catstalking]

You haven't cut staffing and we are hiring hourly in record numbers and overtime is through the roof

we cut staffing over what we would have had, how don't you get that?

 

[Red Devil]

nope, that's the increase

Just because our routes are all completely scrambled in our boards and we also have 20 stops too many, doesn’t mean that putting them in the wrong order is what allowed us to do the extra stops

 

[Ou812fu]

cry me a river commie

so if drivers deliver more and we cut staffing, we somehow don't make any money?

that's some serious mental gymnastics, you should work in government you'd do well

Not when you cut two people but paid 20 people an extra hour of over time.

 

[PT Car Washer]

The PAL system wasn't installed to reduce misloads. It was for preload flexibility (I don't have to put one entire ZIP code on a primary belt to reduce "knowledge units") and a huge reduction in the amount of training a preloader needed to load package cars.

I will agree with the huge reduction in training of preloaders. "Just throw it in a package car and let the driver figure it out."

 

[RangerMan06]

I believe the new contract states how many thousands more employees we have to hire

 

[RangerMan06]

we cut staffing over what we would have had, how don't you get that?

Because it's not true

 

[Brownwind]

I will agree with the huge reduction in training of preloaders. "Just throw it in a package car and let the driver figure it out."

As long as the check clears. I mentor many new hires and #Pt car washer nailed it.

Just remember customer is king. Service is our last name

 

[Over70irregs]

Company prof

It’s an unfortunate problem that has Arisen as more and more corporations take everything over and Mom And pop Shops disappear. The days of people starting at the bottom as a youngster and working their way up in the company are pretty much gone.

This mountain cannot be climbed in multiple lifetimes.