UPS Plans to Cut Non-Driver Jobs to Mitigate Union Labor Costs

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IE techs arguing

 

[RangerMan06]

I've dispatched and driven ORION, spare me your nonsense cope

I'm sure it was a cherry picked walk through resi only half day

 

[Manifesto]

I've dispatched and driven ORION, spare me your nonsense cope

You're full of crap. Which explains why you're in management. They probably had you delivering in one of those promotional videos where there were 20 stops lined up neatly on the shelves. Hopefully someone filed a grievance on you working.

I fortunately have no pickups so I can turn my brain off and follow Orion just fine, unless I have a country business I have to break for. But occasionally a loop partner has an 8 hour and I get 2 country business pickups. Time window is 16:15 to 16:30 but Orion wants me to get there at about 14:30. By that point I'm usually about an hour behind it's plan, but even then it would be 45 minutes early. So I do my own thing and do some other stops before going there. Have to leave it on the map mode because sure enough, it's changing after every stop trying to get me to go to the pickup. It happens. Every time.

 

[Manifesto]

I was part of the early team that developed ORION and it worked EXTREMELY well. In the test locations, the TRAINED management team updated the map data and route configurations daily to make sure the answers made sense.

It was said back then that ORION was like a fine violin that needs to be kept in tune every day. If this is not done, you end up with very, very expensive garbage, which is where UPS is today.

ORION is not a technology failure. I have seen it work very effectively over and over with my own eyes. It is an implementation and accountability failure. When the shine dulls on ORION in a center and the center team loses focus, it goes VERY bad VERY quickly, and setting it right is daunting.

So not surprisingly, another thing that management screwed up. But why even implement it all? You had to know they wouldn't put the effort in to make it work.

 

[catstalking]

Yea ok
Ill listen to @RetiredIE instead.

he literally said the same thing I did you idiot

 

[catstalking]

You're full of crap. Which explains why you're in management. They probably had you delivering in one of those promotional videos where there were 20 stops lined up neatly on the shelves. Hopefully someone filed a grievance on you working.

I fortunately have no pickups so I can turn my brain off and follow Orion just fine, unless I have a country business I have to break for. But occasionally a loop partner has an 8 hour and I get 2 country business pickups. Time window is 16:15 to 16:30 but Orion wants me to get there at about 14:30. By that point I'm usually about an hour behind it's plan, but even then it would be 45 minutes early. So I do my own thing and do some other stops before going there. Have to leave it on the map mode because sure enough, it's changing after every stop trying to get me to go to the pickup. It happens. Every time.

your PM parameters are ed up, your dispatcher is a lazy that can't take two seconds to sort out your solution by moving a slider like a click or two

 

[catstalking]

IE techs arguing

I you bloody bastard bonchod

 

[catstalking]

I'm sure it was a cherry picked walk through resi only half day

nah

 

[Manifesto]

your PM parameters are ed up, your dispatcher is a lazy that can't take two seconds to sort out your solution by moving a slider like a click or two

Sounds about right. And that goes on all around the country. I'm sure Orion was a great idea in principle but if it's not applied correctly that doesn't help drivers one bit. I'm not making up these problems with times and what not. I just have a hard time believing it's made back what it cost. I'm sure that's what you've been told and shown, but that doesn't mean the numbers weren't fudged somehow.

 

[rebelsss]

Advertise Lawyers/firms on the side of the truck and make millions.

 

[catstalking]

Sounds about right. And that goes on all around the country. I'm sure Orion was a great idea in principle but if it's not applied correctly that doesn't help drivers one bit. I'm not making up these problems with times and what not. I just have a hard time believing it's made back what it cost. I'm sure that's what you've been told and shown, but that doesn't mean the numbers weren't fudged somehow.

despite all the stupidity and retardation, it still makes money

it goes to show if it were properly cared for, it would be a monster

 

[Ou812fu]

I've dispatched and driven ORION, spare me your nonsense cope

So my post was optimistic. Please ole wise one. Explain how a program that cost over a billion dollars. Has made a billion dollars and plus some.

 

[Ou812fu]

despite all the stupidity and retardation, it still makes money

it goes to show if it were properly cared for, it would be a monster

It has not even come close to making a billion dollars..if it had. Trust me ups would be paying all kinds of attention to it. Ups has just about set it in the back burner. But keep telling yourself it makes money. You must be on the ie Orion team.

 

[catstalking]

So my post was optimistic. Please ole wise one. Explain how a program that cost over a billion dollars. Has made a billion dollars and plus some.

20 extra stops per driver after adjusting for increased paid day, that's how

 

[Ou812fu]

your PM parameters are ed up, your dispatcher is a lazy that can't take two seconds to sort out your solution by moving a slider like a click or two

Funny you say that. We have had an ie Orion guy come in and fix the parameters. After he was done. It got really bad.

 

[Ou812fu]

20 extra stops per driver after adjusting for increased paid day, that's how

Lol. But it's taking those drives an extra hour and a half over to do those 20. Man you suck with math.

 

[RangerMan06]

20 extra stops per driver after adjusting for increased paid day, that's how

And record 9.5s every year.
Every time I run my route more than 70 percent ORION I'm asked to run it my way

 

[Manifesto]

It has not even come close to making a billion dollars..if it had. Trust me ups would be paying all kinds of attention to it. Ups has just about set it in the back burner. But keep telling yourself it makes money. You must be on the ie Orion team.

Supposedly he said sporh has gone up 2 or 3 stops or per hour

Lol. But it's taking those drives an extra hour and a half over to do those 20. Man you suck with math.

We could probably bankrupt the company if we all ran Orion 100% every day.

 

[clean hairy]

Explain if it is so great it is turned off during peak and drivers use common sense to get the routes done.

 

[Manifesto]

Explain if it is so great it is turned off during peak and drivers use common sense to get the routes done.

The ironic thing is he thinks that Orion is saving the company money, but since no one uses it is more likely that not using it is what is saving the company money. Common sense.