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Cowboy Mac

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I know this wasn’t strictly about voting but about “mouths to feed”. Undocumented immigrants have been shown time and time again to carry their weight and then some. They are a net gain to America. Some of you guys just hate them for their skin color and nationality.

If white people came here without documentation and were shown to be a net positive to society you guys that get hysterical about brown skinned people coming here would be awfully quiet. Am I wrong?

How would you feel if this was your neighborhood? The road your kids ride their bikes on? Or the road your wife drives to take the kids to school?
 
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MI and a few other states, the driver's license database (including non-driver ID cards,) ARE the voter rolls.
They check the ID against the name in the database and mark you off as a voter for that election so you can’t go back through the line again, no?

You’re telling me if you have a Michigan driver license or state ID then you vote and then you hop back in line and vote again and again because they don’t mark you off the rolls for that election?
 

Up In Smoke

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MI and a few other states, the driver's license database (including non-driver ID cards,) ARE the voter rolls.
Again not true. You must be a registered voter in order to cast a vote. Most, if not all states, require the voter to answer 4 questions to the affirmative and provide photo ID. All states require proof of citizenship through either birth or naturalization documents.
 

One day at a time

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Again not true. You must be a registered voter in order to cast a vote. Most, if not all states, require the voter to answer 4 questions to the affirmative and provide photo ID. All states require proof of citizenship through either birth or naturalization documents.
Depends on the person at the voting booth.
 

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)

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Depends on the person at the voting booth.
NY does not require that voters present a voter ID before casting their ballot----all we had to do is tell the poll worker our name and address. They do have software that scans our driver's licenses to prefill our data on to an iPad and, after verifying, we are asked to sign our name and are then given our ballot.

My son and I share the same first and last names and for a time the same address. He rarely if ever voted back then so I could have voted twice and no one would have been the wiser.
 

Up In Smoke

Well-Known Member
NY does not require that voters present a voter ID before casting their ballot----all we had to do is tell the poll worker our name and address. They do have software that scans our driver's licenses to prefill our data on to an iPad and, after verifying, we are asked to sign our name and are then given our ballot.

My son and I share the same first and last names and for a time the same address. He rarely if ever voted back then so I could have voted twice and no one would have been the wiser.
So if they are scanning your DL, how could you possibly vote twice?
 

Lineandinitial

Legio patria nostra
I see no reason why the Fed/State Govt would not resolve these issues once and for all and eliminate these discussions/arguments and illegal wrong-doing.
Maybe it benefits a group and they choose not to!
Simple:
1. Citizen
2. Over 18
3. Not incarcerated
4. Registered
5. Convicted Felon after 10 years
6. Only allow certain voting methods/equipment

There’s more, but why are these not National standards?
 

Lineandinitial

Legio patria nostra
Scanning DL's is not mandatory---they still let you just give them your name and address.
In one southern state I lived in, you showed your DL and an older volunteer simply looked at it. If your name was on their "list", you signed and they gave you a sheet with the voting selections.
If not, they printed your name and address on the last blank page and you signed. All they verified was that your address was within that District.
I had mine written in once because I moved within that city. I saw many pages of handwritten names and addresses. This was within the last 10 years. Not sure if they followed-up and verified the addresses. I suspect not.
 
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