brownman2075
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Yes, he is also using a platform that sensors and filters free speech that supports the main stream narrative and silences whistleblowers.
brownman2075
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He’s using a homosexual actor that pretends to be a genius underage doctor as an example. Goes back to my post about they can’t comprehend their responses are part of the programming.
brownman2075
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That’s called Luciferianism. That’s the religion of the secret societies. Wouldn’t shock me that he is a Freemason or equivalent. Freemasons are the biggest liars on the face of the earth and are sworn to do so under at least 32 different oaths under penalty of death. Guess who is running our government? Guess why nothing makes sense and completely upside down logic. In fact in a previous post in this chat thread he used the phrase bloody hell. That’s not an American phrase. That phrase is used in places like the UK, Scotland, Ireland, Australia, South Africa etc.
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DiadesSuk
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No clue. speculation, theyre being optimistic that a month is enough time to complete this. That said, they're assuming people will pick their job over the vaccine and word on the street says otherwise. Some people are willing to walk away from their career at UPS before being forced to take the vaccine. I feel this was a political move more than anything to get that healthcare money the government is spending on this stuff. If UPS doesnt put their money where their mouth is, Fedex is probably waiting to absorb our piece of the pie on vaccine deliveries. As you guys know, they don't care about our health there's always a financial gain or fear of financial loss tied to every choice "joe" makes.
brownman2075
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He also flooded the thread with a bunch of links in rapid succession that he likely didn’t bother reading himself and probably thinks or pretends he did research. Everyone, please listen to those audio links I posted on the real disease that’s infecting America and I promise you will thoroughly understand what is happening here. Plain and simple. The best part. There is a cure.
Absolutely!!!! Don't know if this feed is being censored like many other platforms, but for those not sure about getting the "jab", here's some documented thoughts for consideration - - - - - - -
The article is too long to post it all, but if you want to read it all and have the links to the documentations, search "18 reasons I won't be getting a covid vaccine". Don't use google though, as they've probably censored it. Use Duckduckgo or startpage.
1. Vaccine makers are immune from liability
The only industry in the world that bears no liability for injuries or deaths resulting from their products are vaccine makers.
As first established in 1986 with the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act, and reinforced by the Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness (PREP) Act, vaccine makers cannot be sued — even if they are shown to be negligent.
The COVID vaccine makers are allowed to create a one-size-fits-all product, with no testing on sub-populations (i.e. people with specific health conditions), and yet they are unwilling to accept any responsibility for any adverse events or deaths their products cause.
If a company is not willing to stand behind its product as safe, especially one rushed to market, I am not willing to take a chance on that product.
2. The checkered past of vaccine companies
The four major companies who are making COVID vaccines are/have either:
- Never brought a vaccine to market before COVID (Moderna and Johnson & Johnson).
- Are serial felons (Pfizer, and AstraZeneca).
- Are both (Johnson & Johnson).
In fact, all major vaccine makers (save Moderna) have paid out tens of billions of dollars in damages for other products they brought to market when they knew those products would cause injuries and death — see Vioxx, Bextra, Celebrex, Thalidomide and opioids as a few examples.
If drug companies willfully choose to put harmful products in the market — when they can be sued — why would we trust any product where they have no liability?
Three of the four COVID vaccine makers have been sued for products they brought to market even though they knew injuries and deaths would result.
- Johnson & Johnson has lost major lawsuits in 1995, 1996, 2001, 2010, 2011, 2016, 2019 (For what it’s worth, the company’s vaccine also contains tissues from aborted fetal cells, perhaps a topic for another discussion).
- Pfizer has the distinction of the biggest criminal payout in history. The company lost so many lawsuits it’s hard to count. You can check out its rap sheet here. Maybe that’s why Pfizer is demanding that countries where they don’t have liability protection put up collateral to cover vaccine-injury lawsuits.
- AstraZeneca has similarly lost so many lawsuits it’s hard to count. Here’s one. Here’s another…you get the point. And in case you missed it, the company had its COVID vaccine suspended in at least 18 countries over concerns of blood clots, and it completely botched its meeting with the FDA with numbers from their study that didn’t match.
- Oh, and apparently Johnson & Johnson (whose vaccine was granted Emergency Use Authorization in the U.S.) and AstraZenca (whose vaccine is not approved in the U.S.), had a little mix up in their ingredients … in 15 million doses. Oops.
Where else in life would we trust someone with that kind of reputation?
To me that makes as much sense as expecting a remorseless, abusive unfaithful lover to become a different person because a judge said deep down they are a good person.
No. I don’t trust them. No liability. No trust. Here’s another reason why I don’t trust them …
Tell Schools/Universities No Vaccine Mandates for Children/Young Adults!
3. Ugly history of attempts to make coronavirus vaccines
There have been many attempts to make viral vaccines in the past that ended in utter failure — which is why we did not have a coronavirus vaccine in 2020.
In the 1960s, scientists attempted to make an RSV (respiratory syncytial virus) vaccine for infants. In that study, they skipped animal trials because the trials weren’t required then.
In the end, the vaccinated infants got much sicker than the unvaccinated infants when exposed to the virus in nature, with 80% of the vaccinated infants requiring hospitalization. Two of them died.
After 2000, scientists made many attempts to create coronavirus vaccines. For the past 20 years, all ended in failure because the animals in the clinical trials got very sick and many died, just like the children in the 1960s.
You can read a summary of this history/science here. Or if you want to read the individual studies you can check out these links:
- In 2004, attempted vaccine produced hepatitis in ferrets.
- In 2005, mice and civets became sick and more susceptible to coronaviruses after being vaccinated.
- In 2012, the ferrets became sick and died. And in this study, mice and ferrets developed lung disease.
- In 2016, this study also produced lung disease in mice.
The problem came when the children and animals were exposed to the wild version of the virus.
When that happened, an unexplained phenomenon called antibody dependent enhancement, also known as vaccine enhanced disease, occurred where the immune system produced a “cytokine storm” (i.e. overwhelmingly attacked the body) and the children/animals died.
5. No access to raw data from trials
Would you like to see the raw data that produced the “90% and 95% effective” claims touted in the news?
Me too. But the companies won’t let us see that data.
As pointed out in the BMJ, something about the Pfizer and Moderna efficacy claims smells really funny. There were “3,410 total cases of suspected, but unconfirmed COVID-19 in the overall study population, 1,594 occurred in the vaccine group vs. 1,816 in the placebo group.”
Wait … what? Did they fail to do science in their scientific study by not verifying a major variable?
Could they not test those “suspected but unconfirmed” cases to find out if they had COVID? Why not test all 3,410 participants for the sake of accuracy?
Can we only guess they didn’t test because it would mess up their “90-95% effective” claims?
Would it not be prudent for the FDA to expect (demand) the vaccine makers test people who have “COVID-like symptoms,” and release their raw data so independent third parties could examine how the manufacturers justified the numbers?
It’s only every citizen of the world we’re trying to get to take these experimental products — why did the FDA not require that? Isn’t that the entire purpose of the FDA anyway?
Good question. Foxes guarding the hen house? No liability. No trust.
6. No long-term safety testing
With products that have been on the market only a few months, we have no long-term safety data.
In other words, we have no idea what this product will do in the body months or years from now — for any population.
Given all the risks above (risks that all pharmaceutical products have), would it not be prudent to wait to see if the worst-case scenarios have indeed been avoided?
Would it not make sense to want to fill those pesky “data gaps” before we try to give this to every man, woman and child on the planet?
That would make sense. But to have that data, they need to test it on people, which leads me to my next point …
8. Under-reporting of adverse reactions and deaths
According to a Harvard study (commissioned by our own government), less than 1% of all adverse reactions to vaccines are actually submitted to VAERS.
While the problems with VAERS have not been fixed (as you can read about in this letter to the CDC), at the time of this writing, VAERS reports over 2,200 deaths from the current COVID vaccines, as well as close to 60,000 adverse reactions.
If those numbers represent only 1% of the total adverse reactions (or .8% to 2% of what this study published recently in the JAMA found), you can do the math — but that equates to somewhere around 110,000 to 220,000 deaths from the vaccines to date, and a ridiculous number of adverse reactions.
Bet you didn’t see that on the news.
That death number would currently still be lower than the 424,000 deaths from medical errors that happen every year (which you probably also don’t hear about), but we are not even six months into the rollout of these vaccines yet.
If you want a deeper dive into the problems with the VAERS reporting system, you can check out this or this.
But then there’s my next point, which could be argued makes these COVID vaccines seem pointless …
9. The vaccines don’t stop transmission or infection
Aren’t these vaccines supposed to be what we’ve been waiting for to “go back to normal”? Nope.
Why do you think we’re getting all these conflicting messages about needing to practice social distancing and wear masks after we get a vaccine? The reason is because these vaccines were never designed to stop transmission or infection.
If you don’t believe me, I refer you again to the papers submitted to the FDA I linked to above which show that the primary endpoint (what the vaccines are meant to accomplish) is to lower your symptoms.
Sounds like just about every other drug on the market right? That’s it … lowering your symptoms is the big payoff we’ve been waiting for. Does that seem completely pointless to anyone but me?
- It can’t stop us from spreading the virus.
- It can’t stop the virus from infecting us once we have it.
- To get the vaccine is to accept all the risk of these experimental products and the best it might do is lower symptoms?
Now for the next logical question: If we’re worried about asymptomatic spreaders, would the vaccine not make it more likely that we are creating asymptomatic spread?
If it indeed reduces symptoms, anyone who gets it might not even know they are sick and thus they are more likely to spread the virus, right?
For what it’s worth, I’ve heard many people say the side effects of the vaccine (especially the second dose) are worse than catching COVID.
I can’t make sense of that either.
Take the risk. Get no protection. Suffer through the vaccine side effects. Keep wearing your mask and social distancing … and continue to be able to spread the virus.
It gets worse …
10. People are catching COVID after being fully vaccinated
Talk about a bummer. You get vaccinated and you still catch COVID.
- It’s happening in Washington State.
- It’s happening in New York.
- It’s happening in Michigan.
- It’s happening in Hawaii.
- It’s happening in several other states too.
- It happened to 80% of 35 nuns who got the vaccine in Kentucky. Two of them died by the way.
Given the reasons above (and what’s below), maybe this doesn’t surprise you, but bummer if you thought the vaccine was a shield to keep you safe.
It’s not. That was never the point.
If 66% of healthcare workers in L.A. are going to delay or skip the vaccine … maybe they aren’t wowed by the rushed science either.
Maybe they are watching the shady way deaths and cases are being reported …
11. Overall death rate from COVID
According to the CDC’s own numbers, COVID has a 99.74% survival rate.
Why would I take a risk on a product, that doesn’t stop infection or transmission, to help me overcome a cold that has a .26% chance of killing me — which actually in my age range is has about a .1% chance of killing me (and .01% chance of killing my kids).
With a bar (death rate) that low, we will be in lockdown every year … i.e., forever.
But wait, what about the 500,000-plus deaths, that’s alarming right? I’m glad you asked …
13. Fauci and others at NIAID own patents on the Moderna vaccine
Thanks to the Bayh-Dole Act, government workers are allowed to file patents on any research they do using taxpayer funding.
Tony Fauci owns more than 1,000 patents (see this video for more details), including patents being used on the Moderna vaccine … for which he approved government funding.
In fact, the National Institutes of Health (NIH) — which oversees the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), of which Fauci is the director — claims joint ownership of Moderna’s vaccine.
Does anyone else see this as a major conflict of interest, or criminal even?
I say criminal because there’s also this pesky problem that makes me even more distrustful of Fauci, NIAD, and the NIH in general …
14. Fauci is on the hot seat for illegal gain-of-function research
What is “gain-of-function” research? It’s where scientists attempt to make viruses gain functions — i.e. make them more transmissible and deadlier.
Sounds at least a touch unethical, right? How could that possibly be helpful?
Our government agreed, and 2014, banned the practice.
So what did the Fauci-led NIAID do? They pivoted and outsourced the gain-of-function research (in coronaviruses no less) to China — to the tune of a $600K grant.
Mr. Fauci, you have some explaining to do … and I hope the cameras are recording when you have to defend your actions.
For now, let’s turn our attention back to the virus …
16. Censorship and the complete absence of scientific debate
I can’t help but get snarky here, so humor me.
How did you enjoy all those nationally and globally televised, robust debates put on by public health officials, and broadcast simultaneously on every major news station?
Wasn’t it great hearing from the best minds in medicine, virology, epidemiology, economics and vaccinology, from all over the world. as they vigorously and respectfully debated things like:
- Lockdowns
- Mask wearing
- Social-distancing
- Vaccine efficacy and safety trials
- How to screen for susceptibility to vaccine injury
- Therapeutics, (i.e. non-vaccine treatment options)
Wasn’t it great seeing the FDA panel publicly grill the vaccine makers in prime time as they stood in the hot-seat of tough questions about products of which they have no liability?
Oh, wait … you didn’t see those debates? No, you didn’t. Because they never happened.
What happened instead was heavy-handed censorship of all but one narrative.
Mark Zuckerberg can question vaccine safety, but I can’t? When did the First Amendment become a suggestion?
It’s the FIRST Amendment, Mark — the one our founders thought was most important.
With so much at stake, why are we fed only one narrative.
In summary
Agree or disagree with me, I’ll treat you no differently.
You’re a human just as worthy of love and respect as anyone else. For that I salute you, and I truly wish you all the best.
I hope you found this helpful. If so, feel free to share.
If not, feel free to (kindly) let me know, in the comments below, what didn’t make sense to you.
Originally published by TRUE Whole Human
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The views and opinions expressed in this article are those of the authors and do not necessarily reflect the views of Children's Health Defense.
snookbunny420
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I remeber Abney saying UPS wasn't in the healthcare business.
brownman2075
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They say what ever fits their agenda or puppet masters agenda at any given moment just like the politicians. Hypocrites. Liars.
Brownslave688
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Cowboy Mac
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So if anyone can answer this question I would love to hear it. @Netsua 3:16
PT Car Washer
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Don't believe we are going to make it. Too many people pushing disinformation out there for a failed political agenda.Just 2 more weeks to flatten the curve
Cowboy Mac
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Cowboy Mac
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When do you say it’s over?
Netsua 3:16
AND THAT’S THE BOTTOM LINE
How tf am I supposed to know that
It’ll be over in exactly 783 days from now-Netsuadamas
Netsua 3:16
AND THAT’S THE BOTTOM LINE
Take my hand. My fellow American
wilberforce15
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You're not supposed to give a date.How tf am I supposed to know that
It’ll be over in exactly 783 days from now-Netsuadamas
You're supposed to give conditions.
If X is met, then we forget this all happened. That kind of barometer. What is it?
brownman2075
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Netsua 3:16
AND THAT’S THE BOTTOM LINE
I posted 18 articles from multiple different types of sources from all over the political and scientific spectrum.
EVERY. SINGLE. ONE OF THEM. Describes, in detail, the benefits of wearing a mask during a pandemic
Did you read any one of them?
Might want to get on it. You have a lot of catching up to do.
At some point in the reading, I’m hoping, you’ll at least go “damn, maybe my alternative news source that @zubenelgenubi championed isn’t going to necessarily give you the truth; just a VERSION of the truth that you WANT TO HEAR”
wilberforce15
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And all of them allege the science somehow magically changed in 2020.I posted 18 articles from multiple different types of sources from all over the political and scientific spectrum.
EVERY. SINGLE. ONE OF THEM. Describes, in detail, the benefits of wearing a mask during a pandemic
Did you read any one of them?
Might want to get on it. You have a lot of catching up to do.
At some point in the reading, I’m hoping, you’ll at least go “damn, maybe my alternative news source that @zubenelgenubi championed isn’t going to necessarily give you the truth; just a VERSION of the truth that you WANT TO HEAR
Nobody was convinced of masks until this year. Now, it's dogma.
This isn't a new question. We studied it for a very long time, and science wasn't persuaded. It's just politics.
Netsua 3:16
AND THAT’S THE BOTTOM LINE
No no no
EVERYTHING is politicized in the world. And you are choosing to focus on that very negative aspect of this virus.
Ignore the politics.
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