Voting Starts Next Week! How will you vote and why.

BigUnionGuy

Got the T-Shirt
This guy is a genius.


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He is encouraging people to "vote no" multiple times, trying stack the deck in the vote count.


Only problem.... he didn't read the instructions that said you can vote multiple times

but they only count the last one you cast. Unbelievable.



-Bug-
 

1989

Well-Known Member
Gonna stop by the hall tomorrow and ask but I keep hearing "more jobs and better pay".

There's more jobs and better pay at the Amazon facility that's taking all our workers away for 15-17.50 an hour.
Go to amazon then. What is your future there? What is their top pay?
 

silenze

Lunch is the best part of the day
This is my first contract. I just went online to cast my vote and there are three separate places to vote. The Master, Area, and Supplement. Can someone explain the difference between the three. Most people i know are voting no on the Master and yes on the other two. Why vote no on one and yes on the others?
There is a copy of the changes with your voting information. You got a copy of the national master, regional supplement, and possible local rider. You have to read the highlighted changes. Or you could have attended a union meeting or contract explanation meeting
 

BigUnionGuy

Got the T-Shirt
Go to amazon then. What is your future there? What is their top pay?


There's a large Amazon distribution center here locally, that lured both management and

hourly workers from UPS with the promise of better wages and benefits.


In less than a year.... they have all topped out, with no future advancement.
 

wide load

Starting wage is a waste of time.
There's a large Amazon distribution center here locally, that lured both management and

hourly workers from UPS with the promise of better wages and benefits.


In less than a year.... they have all topped out, with no future advancement.
Hey BUG, is the IBT actively going after Whole Foods? I hear the employees are seeking to organize.
 

Wiconi

Member
I'll vote no on the national and central region. Mostly because there is precisely NOTHING anywhere that says the new 22.4 drivers have ANY 9.5 protection, nor is there ANY language that says these 'split' workers won't wind up driving 50 hours a week (with no inside time) for less than the RPCD's.

There are a lot of 'if's, but nothignwhatever to stop the company from hiring a 22.4 and driving them full time for less money. There are a couple of phrases which refer to protections that might (but don't) appear in regional and local riders.

Also, I get about $15 wk in 'skilled' pay, and with the new contract, I'll be making less, because for the time I'm doing skills work, I won't get my skilled pay.

I think that the new contract is going the right direction, but there just isn't enough protections for the new combo drivers. Good idea, it's just that the execution needs some refinement. UPS can do better.
 

Mooseknuckle

Well-Known Member
I'll vote no on the national and central region. Mostly because there is precisely NOTHING anywhere that says the new 22.4 drivers have ANY 9.5 protection, nor is there ANY language that says these 'split' workers won't wind up driving 50 hours a week (with no inside time) for less than the RPCD's.

There are a lot of 'if's, but nothignwhatever to stop the company from hiring a 22.4 and driving them full time for less money. There are a couple of phrases which refer to protections that might (but don't) appear in regional and local riders.

Also, I get about $15 wk in 'skilled' pay, and with the new contract, I'll be making less, because for the time I'm doing skills work, I won't get my skilled pay.

I think that the new contract is going the right direction, but there just isn't enough protections for the new combo drivers. Good idea, it's just that the execution needs some refinement. UPS can do better.

In the west they're flat out telling us that the 22.4 drivers will not be working inside at all. It says they CAN use them inside by exception only. Even at the review meetings they they told us these guys will only be driving.
 

watdaflock?

Well-Known Member
Folks ,

We , the people , the backbone,heart eat and spirit of this beloved corporation are being sold down river , very , very cheap . We can do so much better than what is being shoved down our throats or up our rear ends . What our Teamster negotiation committee members are tentatively agreeing to is so beneath what we deserve . Let's start with the wages , yes we are already paid nicely but we "earn" it , dont we !!! . What is $4.15 over 5 years , roughly 83 cents a year . What happened to the days of $1.00 , $1.25 , hell 95 cent raises ? U.P.S. recieved such a nice tax cut , from 35% to 21% , and this is the best they can do ? , "NO" !!! . They are forecasted to net 6 , six , BILLION dollar profit this year alone (then add newly added tax cuts ) . We live in the most prosperous nation in the world , our economy is exploding . I'm not getting into politics ,however we have a "BILLION" dollar President , a businessman at that . Why should we vote "NO" is a no brainer ? It's our time , we deserve more , the economy is ripe, tax cuts on businesses , labor shortages, CDL driver shortage , we control the shipping industry all adds up to "it's there for the taking " . This might be our last time in a while to capitalize on all that is front of us . The most that can happen if we fail to vote "no" is we move ahead with this subpar contract , BUT if we were to overwhelmingly vote "NO" we send our representatives back to the table with so much more to gain , folks U.P.S. will bend , but we have to ask for it . We have to continue to engage our fellow coworkers, we have to use all tools available such as SOCIAL MEDIA , flyers , text , emails , parking lot meetings , Union hall meetings. We can do this folks , dont settle for this low ball offer , when we have so much more to gain at such a fruitful time . A vote "NO" does not mean we will go on strike , they still have til July 31st to wrap this up , but if a yes vote now will only get you what is being offered , and our representatives get to go back to playing golf and fancy dinners and vacays. Let's make them work for us , is that to much to ask ?? Remember this , what might be a nice contract for a senior feeder driver looking forward to retirement in a couple years , might look like crap to a new hire part time who is paying his dues , same thing for a combo employee and a package car driver . All that glitters , is not gold . Lastly , I will leave you with this , U.P.S. wants to succeed, so do you , corporate wants the numbers to keep going up , we want our bank accounts to keep thriving , our time with our families going up . Right now what is being offered is only a scratching of the surface of what we could have . And "NO" , I do not want a strike , that's why we send them back to the table to negotiate, but if we dont come together you will never no what you could have had . Unity folks , we can do this !!!!
"VOTE NO "

Did you normally sleep through English class, when you were in school?
 

browned out

Well-Known Member
Is the union legally allowed to spend our dues $ on the vote yes crap. The vote yes propaganda is against my beliefs. I should not have to be subjected to it or have to subsidize it.
 
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