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'Lord Brown's bidding'
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What's this "EC" only applies to weather problems? It's emergency, or unexpected adverse conditions, not "late due to weather".
"Emergencies" I've come.across and was told to use "EC":
Viscious dog in yard prevents me from attempting proper delivery to door.
Crime scene in location of delivery.
Gun battle (not my experience, but another driver; showed bullet hole where one whizzed past him while he hid in back of vehicle)
Truck trapped between two fallen trees during a windstorm.
These are all "emergencies", and except for the truck trapped by the two trees, none had anything to do with the weather. Aside from that, at least in this district "EC" packages show up on a report, and if used the center manager will have to explain to the DM why "EC" was used.
"Emergencies" I've come.across and was told to use "EC":
Viscious dog in yard prevents me from attempting proper delivery to door.
Crime scene in location of delivery.
Gun battle (not my experience, but another driver; showed bullet hole where one whizzed past him while he hid in back of vehicle)
Truck trapped between two fallen trees during a windstorm.
These are all "emergencies", and except for the truck trapped by the two trees, none had anything to do with the weather. Aside from that, at least in this district "EC" packages show up on a report, and if used the center manager will have to explain to the DM why "EC" was used.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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I used to have a rural route and had no problem with the proper use of EC which, back then, was used for any package(s) that you could not safely deliver due to extreme weather conditions.
I do have an issue when we are given a curfew and then told not to sheet any undelivered packages as those would be exception scanned at the building. Those should all be missed.
Woke up this morning to a coating of ice. What doesn't melt this morning will freeze solid tonight. We will have a ton of (legitimate) EC's tomorrow.
And I would say "if the boss says to sheet it as EC, then it IS legitimate".
I think that the boss defines "Emergency conditions", not us. Maybe not having enough drivers is an emergency condition. Maybe just not having enough time to deliver everything is an emergency condition. Who knows, who cares? Just sheet as instructed.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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You have been in feeders too long.
Do you think those packages either disappear or somehow deliver themselves?
I overheard our PDS/on car basically telling a driver who had been relying a bit too heavily on EC that he needed to start walking off some of those packages.
I am fortunate that I deliver in the city and EC is not an issue for me but it is obvious that there is misuse/abuse of EC by both management and driver.
Ghost in the Darkness
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There is an integrity issue for the company when choosing between EC & missed. My thought is both represent a stop that I didnt attempt so I'm ok with going with their direction. Now if instructed to sheet as attempted in some way and I did not attempt it, then I will refuse.
Rick Ross
I'm into distribution!!
Trip to the railyard?
Weve been running an extra Sunday twilight sort but they also scheduled one for yesterday (Saturday). All I can say is the tsunami looks like it's on the way... Our outbound was blown up two hours into the sort and it ran almost 6 hours. By the time I left this morning the fence of inbounds for today was already full.
I'm guessing it will be at least 300k extra packages over what the last few weekends have run.
Driver as a helper
This driver as a helper thing is ridiculous in my opinion and not safe. to make some one work that many hour with such little rest is crazy. I ran out of hours at 5 o clock Friday. Then worked as a helper till 8:00. Only to be told that I was expected to report Saturday or would the face consequences. So I guess Monday I will see those consequences. Just needed the rest!!
This driver as a helper thing is ridiculous in my opinion and not safe. to make some one work that many hour with such little rest is crazy. I ran out of hours at 5 o clock Friday. Then worked as a helper till 8:00. Only to be told that I was expected to report Saturday or would the face consequences. So I guess Monday I will see those consequences. Just needed the rest!!
BrownTexas
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Contract says you either work 5 8's or 4 10's. Saturday's are voluntary. They can say they are forcing you all they want. All you have to do is tell them you won't be there. Take the write up Monday and protest it if it is given.
onewithedd
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Because as an employee and a customer it prevents customers from getting a refund on a parcel that was guaranteed by UPS to be delivered on time, since UPS did not hire enough help to process and deliver the parcels they guarantee it is a scape goat to get out of paying claims. We have done it on our DIAD but they decided it takes to long so now they do it on the hand helds. Either way it is the customer who pays the bills who has no recourse.If it's not on your DIAD why thedo you care ... none of your business.
In the past only the week of Christmas were time in transit and air guarantees removed or relaxed.
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burrheadd
KING Of GIFS
Don't forget immoral
Foamer Pyle
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Here we call that logging a toilet. Normally I would just stand back and be proud of that masterpiece. You did your best to flush it down. Just walk away with a smile on your face.
Turdferguson
Just a turd
Dishonest is a cardinal offense isn't it?
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
Only if you're a union employee. It's encouraged if you're management.
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
We don't have much over fedex but customer service and not lying to our customers should be one thing we have on them.
Steward773
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I'm curious... is there anyone that has been disciplined for not showing on a Saturday?
