What is the REAL reason negotiations have stalled?

[govols019]

This is also about getting Amazon warehouse workers to join the Teamsters. Fighting for the part timers plays into that strategy.

I don't work for Amazon

 

[542thruNthru]

August 31st 1990

Ouch, I believe ours is 2011 now. I'm sure it's different everywhere.

 

[Non liberal]

After seeing how poorly the part timers have been treated the last 41 years in contracts I don’t believe for a second that the Union has suddenly decided that Part Time Pay is so important that the members will strike over it. It DOES make a great news story and is good for getting Public Support to swing our way in case of a strike but what are opinions of the REAL reasons negotiations broke down? What is the real reason we may go on strike?

My opinions are the company wants to make things like attendance a Cardinal sin, and wants to make the work week for the vast majority of employees Tuesday-Saturday

That is a very good point! I’ve already seen both of those things being implemented already. Also heard rumblings of the tues-sat workweek for everybody, or most.

 

[9.5mania]

I don't work for Amazon

You will!

 

[Karma...]

it wasn't a ups strike .....it was a teamster strike.......central states squandered all that money.............ive been thru strikes and slow downs.....ive cash on hand for the long haul......bring it on........I dont think Biden would allow a strike...maybe a short one....

 

[Bubblehead]

That is a very good point! I’ve already seen both of those things being implemented already. Also heard rumblings of the tues-sat workweek for everybody, or most.

No you haven't, fake news.

Nowhere has attendance (or anything similar) been implemented as a cardinal sin, nor is the vast majority being scheduled Tues-Sat anywhere.

 

[DOK]

That is a very good point! I’ve already seen both of those things being implemented already. Also heard rumblings of the tues-sat workweek for everybody, or most.

Who’s going to do the work on Mondays?

 

[Non liberal]

No you haven't, fake news.

Nowhere has attendance (or anything similar) been implemented as a cardinal sin, nor is the vast majority being scheduled Tues-Sat

Our whole automotive dept was split down the middle. 1/2 tues thru sat, half sun-Thurs. and they just started cracking down on attendance.

 

[Non liberal]

Who’s going to do the work on Mondays?

You haven’t noticed mondays getting less and less busy? I have, most of the volume is getting shifted to the end of the week.

 

[DOK]

You haven’t noticed mondays getting less and less busy? I have, most of the volume is getting shifted to the end of the week.

It has, but we still run 30 routes out of 40 on Mondays.

 

[govols019]

You will!

And when I do I will worry about Amazon then...right now, I voted for SOB to represent me at UPS.

 

[Up In Smoke]

You haven’t noticed mondays getting less and less busy? I have, most of the volume is getting shifted to the end of the week.

My biggest days by far are Mondays. My rural area grows by 50+ percent. Typical day is 190 miles and on Monday I'm pushing 250. My paid day goes from 9 to 11 hours.

 

[Bubblehead]

It has, but we still run 30 routes out of 40 on Mondays.

How many on Saturdays?

 

[SpicyItalian739]

And a new fleshlight

That’s what the Turkeys were for if you’re adventurous enough!

 

[DOK]

How many on Saturdays?

12-15

 

[Bubblehead]

12-15

Half that of Mondays, that's what I thought.

 

[Brown Down]

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Not this one?

thats a scab's boat.

 

[MrBates]

I almost created a thread on this. For many, many years FTers have made it pretty clear they will not strike for PTers. Granted not all but most have said it at some point.

Now, with the IBT not allowing the contract to be voted on they'll have no choice but to support a strike for PTers pay. So with that said do FTers become vile scabs because of their own arrogance or do they stand with the PTers?

Personally I like that Obrien is not putting the decision in the members hands so that the PTers don't get walked over. Though we had something like that before called the 2/3 rule and we all saw how that worked out for that administration.

Mainstream media seems to be pushing the idea that it is about the part timers. Check out the infographic at 2:23. I've never heard of part timers averaging 9 hour days at $20/hr. News report says this is what UPS is stating.

 

[Superteeth2478]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1677663833815384066

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I COULD NOT STOP CRINGING READING THAT "TOP 5" BULL
If the average part-time rates across the nation are $20/hour without the MRAs I will stick my own dick up my ass.
...it's not very big so my only option will be cutting it off and sticking it in there.

 

[TheOCbaby]

I almost created a thread on this. For many, many years FTers have made it pretty clear they will not strike for PTers. Granted not all but most have said it at some point.

Now, with the IBT not allowing the contract to be voted on they'll have no choice but to support a strike for PTers pay. So with that said do FTers become vile scabs because of their own arrogance or do they stand with the PTers?

Personally I like that Obrien is not putting the decision in the members hands so that the PTers don't get walked over. Though we had something like that before called the 2/3 rule and we all saw how that worked out for that administration.