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refineryworker05

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vantexan said:
The Republicans in office didn't elect Trump. It was a populist uprising that got him in. It's been overanalyzed to death the many contradictions of his past and present positions. What you are saying isn't something new. Trump ran as a Republican. The crowds ate it up when he stood up to and shouted down the good ol'boy network. Blame all of this on people fed up with Washington, including many of your fellow Democrats. What do you expect a Republican Congress to do, denounce him? Of course they're going to try work with him. Politics 101: Politics makes strange bedfellows. Nothing new under the sun.
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Populist uprising?

Trump got 46% of the vote. When John McCain lost bigly to President Obama he got 45.5%.

The difference all the people who didn't vote for McCain voted for Obama.

That didn't happen this election. The untold story is that the majority of voters that didn't for Trump didn't coalesce around a single candidate. He won by about 60k-80k votes total spread across three states.

He isn't a populist. He doesn't have a populist message. He has an exclusionary message.

And if elected republicans wouldn't have supported him, would have said they we are not going to vote for Trump, that his brand of ignorance and bigotry, and crude behavior doesn't represent the Republican Party, and said the man is unfit to be President, he wouldn't have won because some small percentage of voters would have followed their lead, and he doesn't get the very very narrow victory he received.

Instead they embraced trump.

Trump voters don't give a damn about the good ole boy network or government corruption.

Trump is hiding his tax returns, he is openly profiting off of being President and is now arguing in open court that foreigners should be able to give him money directly through his businesses, he put a bunch of Goldman Sachs and billionaires in his administration, he is hiding the many many lobbyists he has brought in to his administration.

If these voters really cared about that good ole boy stuff they'd be revolting against what Trump is doing, but they aren't because again as I keep pointing out conservatives/republicans don't actually care about the stuff they pretend to care about.

Why they love Trump is because they thinks he hates the same groups of people they hate and they believe and hope that trump will hurt those people which they believe will somehow help them.
 
Sportello

Sportello

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refineryworker05 said:
Populist uprising?

Trump got 46% of the vote. When John McCain lost bigly to President Obama he got 45.5%.

The difference all the people who didn't vote for McCain voted for Obama.

That didn't happen this election. The untold story is that the majority of voters that didn't for Trump didn't coalesce around a single candidate. He won by about 60k-80k votes total spread across three states.

He isn't a populist. He doesn't have a populist message. He has an exclusionary message.

And if elected republicans wouldn't have supported him, would have said they we are not going to vote for Trump, that his brand of ignorance and bigotry, and crude behavior doesn't represent the Republican Party, and said the man is unfit to be President, he wouldn't have won because some small percentage of voters would have followed their lead, and he doesn't get the very very narrow victory he received.

Instead they embraced trump.

Trump voters don't give a damn about the good ole boy network or government corruption.

Trump is hiding his tax returns, he is openly profiting off of being President and is now arguing in open court that foreigners should be able to give him money directly through his businesses, he put a bunch of Goldman Sachs and billionaires in his administration, he is hiding the many many lobbyists he has brought in to his administration.

If these voters really cared about that good ole boy stuff they'd be revolting against what Trump is doing, but they aren't because again as I keep pointing out conservatives/republicans don't actually care about the stuff they pretend to care about.

Why they love Trump is because they thinks he hates the same groups of people they hate and they believe and hope that trump will hurt those people which they believe will somehow help them.
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Well said. Welcome to BC, don't worry about @Monkey Butt, he's going through some stuff.
 
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vantexan

Well-Known Member
refineryworker05 said:
Populist uprising?

Trump got 46% of the vote. When John McCain lost bigly to President Obama he got 45.5%.

The difference all the people who didn't vote for McCain voted for Obama.

That didn't happen this election. The untold story is that the majority of voters that didn't for Trump didn't coalesce around a single candidate. He won by about 60k-80k votes total spread across three states.

He isn't a populist. He doesn't have a populist message. He has an exclusionary message.

And if elected republicans wouldn't have supported him, would have said they we are not going to vote for Trump, that his brand of ignorance and bigotry, and crude behavior doesn't represent the Republican Party, and said the man is unfit to be President, he wouldn't have won because some small percentage of voters would have followed their lead, and he doesn't get the very very narrow victory he received.

Instead they embraced trump.

Trump voters don't give a damn about the good ole boy network or government corruption.

Trump is hiding his tax returns, he is openly profiting off of being President and is now arguing in open court that foreigners should be able to give him money directly through his businesses, he put a bunch of Goldman Sachs and billionaires in his administration, he is hiding the many many lobbyists he has brought in to his administration.

If these voters really cared about that good ole boy stuff they'd be revolting against what Trump is doing, but they aren't because again as I keep pointing out conservatives/republicans don't actually care about the stuff they pretend to care about.

Why they love Trump is because they thinks he hates the same groups of people they hate and they believe and hope that trump will hurt those people which they believe will somehow help them.
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Nope and nope. Nope. You want to say that my view of liberals isn't accurate then spout off about conservatives. Check the blue States that went red. County by county. See how many that voted for Obama went with Trump. Almost unanimous. These are staunchly Democrat, pro union areas. Sure there were plenty there who voted Democrat. But you don't win those counties with the Republican vote, they're way in the minority. And as I already pointed out, what do you expect the Republican Congress to do? Seriously do you think they're going to turn their backs on him? They have an agenda that Obama would never sign off on but Trump will. They need him. You are terribly naive if you think they'll denounce Trump and take some moral high ground. Trump got into office appealing to people who feel disenfranchised. And some of that was appealing to fears and prejudices. But much of what you know is based on the MSM's agenda to characterize him in the absolute worst way possible to help Hillary win. If you think the media was fair and impartial you're kidding yourself. Which makes Trump's win that much more remarkable in the face of that onslaught. Which has continued even more intensely after the win. Now that Comey's testimony seems to have made the Russian angle fizzle, they seem to be focusing on Trump's mental fitness. He's brought a lot of this on himself. He should stop the ridiculous tweets. But I suspect if Ronald Reagan had won in this partisan environment things wouldn't be much different. Reagan shut them up with results and humor. Will Trump?
 
newfie

newfie

Well-Known Member
refineryworker05 said:
Populist uprising?

Trump got 46% of the vote. When John McCain lost bigly to President Obama he got 45.5%.

The difference all the people who didn't vote for McCain voted for Obama.

That didn't happen this election. The untold story is that the majority of voters that didn't for Trump didn't coalesce around a single candidate. He won by about 60k-80k votes total spread across three states.

He isn't a populist. He doesn't have a populist message. He has an exclusionary message.

And if elected republicans wouldn't have supported him, would have said they we are not going to vote for Trump, that his brand of ignorance and bigotry, and crude behavior doesn't represent the Republican Party, and said the man is unfit to be President, he wouldn't have won because some small percentage of voters would have followed their lead, and he doesn't get the very very narrow victory he received.

Instead they embraced trump.

Trump voters don't give a damn about the good ole boy network or government corruption.

Trump is hiding his tax returns, he is openly profiting off of being President and is now arguing in open court that foreigners should be able to give him money directly through his businesses, he put a bunch of Goldman Sachs and billionaires in his administration, he is hiding the many many lobbyists he has brought in to his administration.

If these voters really cared about that good ole boy stuff they'd be revolting against what Trump is doing, but they aren't because again as I keep pointing out conservatives/republicans don't actually care about the stuff they pretend to care about.

Why they love Trump is because they thinks he hates the same groups of people they hate and they believe and hope that trump will hurt those people which they believe will somehow help them.
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more sour grapes snowflake rhetoric.

executive branch
congress
governorships
state legislatures.

thus populist uprising.
 
DriveInDriveOut

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
vantexan said:
Nope and nope. Nope. You want to say that my view of liberals isn't accurate then spout off about conservatives. Check the blue States that went red. County by county. See how many that voted for Obama went with Trump. Almost unanimous. These are staunchly Democrat, pro union areas. Sure there were plenty there who voted Democrat. But you don't win those counties with the Republican vote, they're way in the minority. And as I already pointed out, what do you expect the Republican Congress to do? Seriously do you think they're going to turn their backs on him? They have an agenda that Obama would never sign off on but Trump will. They need him. You are terribly naive if you think they'll denounce Trump and take some moral high ground. Trump got into office appealing to people who feel disenfranchised. And some of that was appealing to fears and prejudices. But much of what you know is based on the MSM's agenda to characterize him in the absolute worst way possible to help Hillary win. If you think the media was fair and impartial you're kidding yourself. Which makes Trump's win that much more remarkable in the face of that onslaught. Which has continued even more intensely after the win. Now that Comey's testimony seems to have made the Russian angle fizzle, they seem to be focusing on Trump's mental fitness. He's brought a lot of this on himself. He should stop the ridiculous tweets. But I suspect if Ronald Reagan had won in this partisan environment things wouldn't be much different. Reagan shut them up with results and humor. Will Trump?
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Reagan was a :censored2:.
@Monkey Butt
 
newfie

newfie

Well-Known Member
vantexan said:
Nope and nope. Nope. You want to say that my view of liberals isn't accurate then spout off about conservatives. Check the blue States that went red. County by county. See how many that voted for Obama went with Trump. Almost unanimous. These are staunchly Democrat, pro union areas. Sure there were plenty there who voted Democrat. But you don't win those counties with the Republican vote, they're way in the minority. And as I already pointed out, what do you expect the Republican Congress to do? Seriously do you think they're going to turn their backs on him? They have an agenda that Obama would never sign off on but Trump will. They need him. You are terribly naive if you think they'll denounce Trump and take some moral high ground. Trump got into office appealing to people who feel disenfranchised. And some of that was appealing to fears and prejudices. But much of what you know is based on the MSM's agenda to characterize him in the absolute worst way possible to help Hillary win. If you think the media was fair and impartial you're kidding yourself. Which makes Trump's win that much more remarkable in the face of that onslaught. Which has continued even more intensely after the win. Now that Comey's testimony seems to have made the Russian angle fizzle, they seem to be focusing on Trump's mental fitness. He's brought a lot of this on himself. He should stop the ridiculous tweets. But I suspect if Ronald Reagan had won in this partisan environment things wouldn't be much different. Reagan shut them up with results and humor. Will Trump?
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don't waste your time another drive by liberal id freshly created by one of the existing liberal id's here.
 

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