Why shouldn't we strike?

[Dracula]

Yes, the majority of PT's don't vote, but the amount of full-timers that don't bother is staggering, considering the consequences. Apathy is no excuse. You get what you work for. And there is NO work involved in voting.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Yes, the majority of PT's don't vote, but the amount of full-timers that don't bother is staggering, considering the consequences. Apathy is no excuse. You get what you work for. And there is NO work involved in voting.

Perhaps a lot of members feel that it does not matter how you vote because the election is already rigged. The last contract vote may have something to do with that impression.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Perhaps a lot of members feel that it does not matter how you vote because the election is already rigged. The last contract vote may have something to do with that impression.

We have between 100-125 hourlies in my center. It doesn't matter how we vote or if we even vote as the election is decided by how the big cities vote.

 

[upschuck]

We have between 100-125 hourlies in my center. It doesn't matter how we vote or if we even vote as the election is decided by how the big cities vote.

You can say the same for any building/local. Look at L89(biggest local in nation), they voted no big time, but National and Supplement still passed. Only think they had control of was their local rider, and we see how that turned out.

 

[pickup]

PTers need 5 years to be vested in our pension. Work less than that and the union gets to keep all of the contributions made on their behalf so, yeah, it may be in their interest to have high turnover.

There should be a newcomer orientation meeting hosted by the BA on Union 101.

I'm under the impression that when a worker hits 5 years, then ups forks over the money to the teamsters for that worker. If the worker leaves before 5 years, UPS never has to hand over a dime.

That's my belief and your post contradicts my belief. You got any evidence behind your post? Perhaps something a BA said to you?

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I'm under the impression that when a worker hits 5 years, then ups forks over the money to the teamsters for that worker. If the worker leaves before 5 years, UPS never has to hand over a dime.

That's my belief and your post contradicts my belief. You got any evidence behind your post? Perhaps something a BA said to you?

The part time pension here is administered by UPS and has nothing to do with the Teamsters. If an employee has less than 5 years they get nothing and the company keeps the money or it just stays in the plan. And that's less that they have to contribute in the future.

 

[brown67]

Striking sounds great until it happens, and then it sucks real fast. Ask yourself this question. Where can you go and make 80k to 100k with full free benefits? Now, why are striking if you have the highest pay and best benefits

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Striking sounds great until it happens, and then it sucks real fast. Ask yourself this question. Where can you go and make 80k to 100k with full free benefits? Now, why are striking if you have the highest pay and best benefits

If you take the threat of a strike away, you will not get to keep what we have

 

[rod]

Striking sounds great until it happens, and then it sucks real fast. Ask yourself this question. Where can you go and make 80k to 100k with full free benefits? Now, why are striking if you have the highest pay and best benefits

Would you say the same thing if you made $70 to $90? How about $50 to $70--maybe $30 to $50. My point is you have to fight to keep what you have------------someone else fought for you. Or you can roll over and watch as things regress like Upstate is volunteering to do.

P.S. Striking isn't so bad. Have a few beers, sleep in, carry a little sign.

 

[Dracula]

Would you say the same thing if you made $70 to $90? How about $50 to $70--maybe $30 to $50. My point is you have to fight to keep what you have------------someone else fought for you. Or you can roll over and watch as things regress like Upstate is volunteering to do.

The long view isn't a strong suit of this generation.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I'm under the impression that when a worker hits 5 years, then ups forks over the money to the teamsters for that worker. If the worker leaves before 5 years, UPS never has to hand over a dime.

That's my belief and your post contradicts my belief. You got any evidence behind your post? Perhaps something a BA said to you?

Do they set it aside on paper or is there an escrow account where those funds are automatically deposited?

It is my understanding that the contributions are forwarded to the pension for all employees regardless of years of service.

 

[Coldworld]

People will take one look at our compensation package and tell us to get our butts back to work.

Maybe people from the south...

 

[Coldworld]

Ups has pushed us beyond the point of giving a . If anything little thing is even mentioned of being taken away(and I know it will) you got my no vote.

Yep and most of us just keep taking it year after year after year.....I see more guys limping and with wrist, knee and elbow braces than ever before... More guys out on medical leave than ever before ... More " firings" more warning letters over absolutely stupid ass reasons....yet we still just let the company walk and stomp all over us...and take it like dogs

 

[Coldworld]

People will take one look at our compensation package and tell us to get our butts back to work.

Get most of their asses out there for a couple weeks during Christmas and see how they feel about our pay then...

 

[Coldworld]

I'll be sure to space it out each time then. So people who see H o friend friend a. Means he is for UPS, not the members vote

Careful...if you start trying to sneak things past the filters the ass might send you a private message throwing a hissy....he didn't like it when I was doing it ...he's playing the dictator role....this isn't ups anymore man you're retired..

 

[Coldworld]

I hope we do walk out. This crap is getting ridiculous. From daily Harassment, to SurePost. The list goes on and on. Im ready to walk out. Record profits

Yep bullseye ... When I get my "questionnaire in the mail the first two things I'm going to put down is constant harassment as 1 and surepost as 2... Oh that's right the union put a stop to the underlying causes of production harassment in the last contract...lol what joke!!

 

[Coldworld]

Yeah I mean it's cool that it's going up. Just don't cry poor like I said.

oh yeah all of that money spent on buy backs also

Don't forget Orion....

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Yep bullseye ... When I get my "questionnaire in the mail the first two things I'm going to put down is constant harassment as 1 and surepost as 2... Oh that's right the union put a stop to the underlying causes of production harassment in the last contract...lol what joke!!

It's sad how few people actually voted on the contract.

 

[Coldworld]

I don't know that anyone is really complaining about record profits. Just don't cry broke come contract time when you're making 5-6 billion a year and paying out another 3 billion in divedends.

They have cried broke from day one since I've been here... Sky is always falling

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

They have cried broke from day one since I've been here... Sky is always falling

They better get their act together because the competition is getting bigger