You Think They Would Learn...I need advice!

[Overpaid Union Thug]

Our p/t sups get overtime here. I don't know why it would be different there.

 

[toonertoo]

I dont know why it would be either, but numbers and $$ still come to mind, unless the guy is lying, which I dont think he is.

 

[Braveheart]

Brownall the way. I see you have completed your labotomy session since the typical answer from FT mgmt is "if you are not happy find another job".

Do you know how how many good, I mean well educated, people friendly, stable, dependable people UPS has lost with that attitude? Or maybe you just dont care, another one who cant "get the big picture" .
Seeing as how you are a big "jersey" mgmt person, with
one whole post to your credit................it hardly makes you an expert on the way it is at UPS, for ptimers. Or the past battles we have seen ptimers go through.
You may be a nice guy/gal, but your post is rather arrogant. You got lucky if in 5 yrs you want to call it that reamains to be seen.
I spent 6 yrs in pt mgmt, and I finally got my dream of the FT position and when my six months driving was up, I said NOPE. I am where I am because at least among hourly there is some loyalty. You guys have no protection and you get some mgr in there that doesnt like you, You are gone dude. I at least have the back of my fellow worker even if I didnt have a union. You are alone. You may find out the real meaning of caring when you find you have no one that does in your corner. Ive seen mgrs QUIT when they were taking a dying parent to the hospital, and were told to pull over for a conference call. I was told I couldnt have a day off when my father was dying, so I clocked off and he died that eve, and I never got to see him. I got there 5 minutes too late at 10:00pm. I was on the preload when I had my son in the ER because of suspected appendicitis, and they aka YOU made me stay and deliver NDA during a snowstorm and the hospital called 3xs, (before diad and cell phones) and I got back to the center and when I got to the hospital I got ripped for not getting there when called) and my son could have died, and not one mgmt person would admit to taking a call. And there were only 3 of them, not like a big jersy center. That is when I decided, management was not for me, as I tend to care about people. So I wish you luck, but until you have been around to see how things really work, dont tell someone who has put in the same blood and sweat as you, and not getting the same results to just quit, dont give such arrogant advice. Its not complimentary to your position. How many years total did you say you have, or did you just get the big bone?

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TELLING HIM HOW IT IS!! Obviously, BROWN ALL THE WAY is a sold out manager. The PTS has a right to get paid for the hours he worked. Maybe BROWN ALL THE WAY is a five o'clock and a cloud of dust who dumps his work on the the PTS in his center. I have also witnessed PTS in my building go FT driving and then decline full time management just like you did. BROWN ALL THE WAY IS TRULY BROWN ALL THE WAY!!

 

[NI3X]

Well.........It was your career chioce. The so called "CENTER OF THE FUTURE" eliminates management people anyway. Get out now while you can. Go find work for a company that will respect you and the work that you do.

 

[Ex-UPS F/T SUP]

I am an ex-ups friend/T sup. I left the company after 10 years in 4 different buildings and can say that there is LIFE outside of UPS. I have never felt better since leaving...and am making way more money !! I get paid for overtime , even double time. Most of these postings are accurate in saying upper managment doesn't care about it's people. My manager only cared about himself and changing driver timecards to make his numbers better. I do not regret the decision I made to leave the company, but only because of upper management...the drivers I had were GREAT guys !!

 

[mittam]

That's the problem with UPS,too many inexperienced people get moved up the ladder too quickly. 30 days on the road doesn't qualify you for management,unless it's UPS. I had a helper for peak a few years ago,he was a p/t sup within a year.

disney my center one can get ft management and not be on the road 30 because 1st day on road they found out she couldnot drive a stick she still made on road sup

 

[tieguy]

she'll get plenty of opportunities to learn as she chokes routes and runs off left in buildings.

 

[JustAnotherBody]

35$ union dues? lucky!
im a part timer from the central states region and i pay more then 35$ a month, as a part timer..
Senority before August 1st, 2002 2.5x your hourly wage per month goes to the union.
I kinda get irked by the dues that way. I earn more per hour then a new person so even if dues were calculated on the same scale the teamsters would still get more money from me. but ive been there longer so they get me twice. with the higher multiplier per month and threw my higher wage.
My main argument with that is do I get more representation to justify my paying higher dues?
Im sure this might irritate some people. Hopefully I dont start a war. Dont hate me I love the teamsters I really shouldnt have complained.
I could justify my higher dues I guess by TOMMOROWS RAISE! YAHOO! 1.10 an hour by guaranteed 17.5 hours a week = guaranteed more then a thousand dollar raise per year not to shabby. Realisticly its alot more then that because rarley do we work the minimum 3.5 hours a day.

And regarding the initial post in this thread... why bother complaining for the O/T as a part time sup? from what I understand in my building O/T for P/T sups is Time and a Tenth. Yup. wow. divide your salary by 27.5 get your hourly rate then if they dont change the time card u filed they'll give u an extra 10% an hour for those hours worked. All those double shifts last christmas really paid off hey? u got double the headache for 10% extra nice nice nice.

I wonder how many teamsters would double shift for time and tenth?

sorry this was so long and slightly off subject. Its my first post hope I didnt make an enemies..

 

[over9five]

Say what you feel. We all do.

 

[vbmiked]

Wow thats crazy!

 

[Channahon]

On What Grounds...?

They cant deny you your overtime.....imagine they told drivers, loaders, or unloaders...."Hey, work but we wont pay you overtime we will give you a day off".....

Why did they put PTRS in place....on my PRELOAD we cant have overtime but the HUB P/T sups can?

Days off dont pay my bills.....

Take it to the next level of management, and the next if you have to and the District Manager, if need be. Your situation will get all the attention it needs.
Good luck