newolddude
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Yes. And He forgave me because that how we roll.
But I also know that the Bible was written by men and is a flawed book.
1 in 4 women have abortions? Wow.
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But I also know that the Bible was written by men and is a flawed book.
Deuteronomy 22:28-29
El Correcto
god is dead
Okay so the government shouldn’t be enshrining Christian values because they can’t be applied equally to all couples and it starts going down a rabbit hole real fast.
I agree with you on this.
BigGuy2732
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How is this flawed? It was the perfect solution to the problem. No man would have ever wanted the used goods of a raped woman (no man would even want a woman suspected of losing her virginity unless she was a widow). It remedied the situation.
And that was the Old Testament law. Not under that today.
Again, what did women do before your party came up with the nanny state? You've never seen someone else's money that you didn't want to spend for them. I have said over and over that social programs are fine as long as we can pay for them. Better hope your party's wild spending doesn't crash Social Security and Medicare. If you think pregnant women are in dire need wait until you have tens of millions of seniors with no income or healthcare.
I know someone who had babies as fosters. They love them. All of a sudden Dad decides he wants them back. And put them all through a year of hell. Parents rights. They are 4 yrs old now. Finally they are staying where they belong and being adopted. All the babies in foster care are not free to be adopted, sometimes it take years.
Up In Smoke
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I see that Israel, in response to the Supreme Court ruling has further loosened abortion rights. The birthplace of our christian beliefs now allows abortions without government approval. Can we stop sending US dollars to this country already?
BigGuy2732
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Who cares if they murdered Jesus Christ and continue to hate him more than any other group in the world? They're our greatest ally.
El Correcto
god is dead
Israel kills lots of muslim homophobes who kill gays.
I stand with Israel and the Jews, keep bombing them to death.
El Correcto
god is dead
Tax dollars well spent blowing up religious zealots.
zubenelgenubi
I'm a star
I hate the idea of Christians legislating morality just as much as secular atheists trying to legislate whatever they have that passes for morality. Even when your moral code has been proven to be in the best interest of a properly functioning society, it still can't be forced onto people.
The trick is to create a system of law and order that is based on moral order without forcing morality. A social contract in which everyone recognizes that everyone has equal rights, and everyone is entitled to the same protection of those rights. From that foundation, logic can form the basis by which law is legitimized, thus helping to ensure, not provide for, the physical well-being of every member of the society. Morality is not the purview of the state, the right and power to pursue morality and spiritual well-being is retained by the people as an individual endeavor, as it must be. We must all be free to make our own mistakes and learn and grow from them, and perhaps eventually answer to whatever cosmic force may exist with dignity and ownership of our deeds.
zubenelgenubi
I'm a star
I think it was more a matter of a man being forced to raise another man's child as his own. Blood lines were a very important part of the Hebrew world view.
TearsInRain
IE boogeyman
i'm an atheist, abortion is murder and anti-human; i base this on A. basic biology, B. basic human morality necessary to keep us from devolving into chaos
take your "religious justification" argument and shove it
newolddude
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Yes, the Old Testament is unlivable today. Crop rotation, blended fabrics etc are all sins.
The Bible says nothing about abortion. So being anti-choice is a cultural and political decision, not a biblical one
Christian support for legislation prohibiting abortion is a cultural and political stance. It has nothing to do with the Bible.
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Yes, the Old Testament is unlivable today. Crop rotation, blended fabrics etc are all sins.
The Bible says nothing about abortion. So being anti-choice is a cultural and political decision, not a biblical one
Christian support for legislation prohibiting abortion is a cultural and political stance. It has nothing to do with the Bible.
I believe that there were some “baby killing” cults
around in the Old Testament ...much like today...
Jesus would of never mentioned abortions..I was unthinkable that any women at that time would ever do it....just plain unnatural
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newolddude
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Republican Yesli Vega Slammed for Doubting Women Get Pregnant From Rape
Vega, who is running for Congress in Virginia, said it wouldn't "surprise" her if women are less likely to become pregnant as a result of rape.
www.newsweek.com
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