2023 contract

[542thruNthru]

And they think they have it worse than we did? Maybe on some things but not that.

Personally none of them really have it worse or really better. It's the same job it's always been.

They like to point out 9.5 protect but don't realize we had to fight for that as well and even then it was usually a 4 year wait. They bring up pay but 90% are only $.50 less than rpcds with the same years.

When I was a low seniority "RPCD" I was getting used to death every day. I had 9.5 guys hand me the keys when I pulled up and laugh many times.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Personally none of them really have it worse or really better. It's the same job it's always been.

They like to point out 9.5 protect but don't realize we had to fight for that as well and even then it was usually a 4 year wait. They bring up pay but 90% are only $.50 less than rpcds with the same years.

When I was a low seniority "RPCD" I was getting used to death every day. I had 9.5 guys hand me the keys when I pulled up and laugh many times.

Absolutely. One thing is for certain at UPS Everyone gets a bite of the sandwich

 

[FatHead]

Are you saying it should be classification seniority???

That's exactly what I'm saying.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Are you saying it should be classification seniority???

That's how it's here. If i went into feeders I would be at the bottom of the seniority list.

 

[Wontmake9.5]

Personally none of them really have it worse or really better. It's the same job it's always been.

They like to point out 9.5 protect but don't realize we had to fight for that as well and even then it was usually a 4 year wait. They bring up pay but 90% are only $.50 less than rpcds with the same years.

When I was a low seniority "RPCD" I was getting used to death every day. I had 9.5 guys hand me the keys when I pulled up and laugh many times.

You tell them gf

 

[Coldworld]

That's how it's here. If i went into feeders I would be at the bottom of the seniority list.

That’s bull…

 

[Thebrownblob]

That’s bull…

We keep ours. And feeders has unlimited bumps.

 

[Coldworld]

We keep ours. And feeders has unlimited bumps.

Seems to be about right down the middle on if a particular area has classification seniority or not. Our seniority is really all we have here.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

That’s bull…

That's the way it is

 

[542thruNthru]

That’s bull…

Same in my area. Drop to the bottom.

 

[DELACROIX]

Same in my area. Drop to the bottom.

Kind of defeats the notion of “Brotherhood”..

 

[Bubblehead]

Would like to see surepost go bye-bye…it’s right there in the contract that if FedEx stops their version that the company would follow suit…

That's not what it says.

What does it say then???

The Letter of Agreement doesn't specify any specific company offering similar services, rather "the Company’s competition".

Company claims that DHL and Amazon offer like services.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

The Letter of Agreement doesn't specify any specific company offering similar services, rather "the Company’s competition".

Company claims that DHL and Amazon offer like services.

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What do you think's going to happen this upcoming contract?

 

[FatHead]

Kind of defeats the notion of “Brotherhood”..

Yeah, much brotherhood when an experienced feeder gets bumped by 6 package transfers. Even the package transfers hate it when someone with more seniority than them bumps them.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Yeah, much brotherhood when an experienced feeder gets bumped by 6 package transfers. Even the package transfers hate it when someone with more seniority than them bumps them.

Perhaps learn how unionism works, seniority is all we have my friend.

 

[FatHead]

Perhaps learn how unionism works, seniority is all we have my friend.

Each department works in its own way, and it should be up to those already in that department. If I were to transfer to package Id have to start at the bottom, no bumping. See how that works? As far as I'm concerned, feeders is the only department you can get bumped out of a job.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Each department works in its own way, and it should be up to those already in that department. If I were to transfer to package Id have to start at the bottom, no bumping. See how that works? As far as I'm concerned, feeders is the only department you can get bumped out of a job.

I have no idea how it works where you are but here we have a yearly pick, Pkg Drivers going into feeders in the middle of a bid do not bump. They cover and take what’s available. No different than if a feed driver wanted to disqualify himself and go back to package and there was a route available he could bid on it, and he would get it before another regular package car driver who had been driving package car for the last five years, your seniority should carry throughout the company. Watering it down helps the company. If the company eliminates the top drivers job, there is a continuous bump through all 500+ feeder drivers.

 

[Bubblehead]

What do you think's going to happen this upcoming contract?

In regards to SurePost?

....my hope is a well defined description of what a proximity stop is and monetary penalties for proven violations.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

In regards to SurePost?

....my hope is a well defined description of what a proximity stop is and monetary penalties for proven violations.

Yes that would definitely be something good in the contract

 

[Thebrownblob]

Yes that would definitely be something good in the contract

They certainly do whatever they want with surepost right now.