2023 contract

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

The problem with todays package driver, the younger generation is they love PVD’s. Why? Anything to make their life easier. They don’t look at the big picture. I left package for feeders right before PVD’s we’re a thing. I would’ve lost my mind had I been directed to give work to some clown driving a Prius. I would’ve rather worked till 10pm every night and bury them in 9.5 grievances then give one stop to a PVD.

They don't realize that they are trying to outsource their own jobs.

I still remember my first route.
My first stop was a big high-rise building
They had two receivers to handle everything I brought in usually around 100 packages.

They did not want to take them anymore they wanted me to take them room to room.

So can you guess what happened the short time later?





They eliminated their positions

 

[clean hairy]

"Work week for drivers shall be 5 days per week"
A 6th day of work shall be on a voluntary basis"
No discipline shall be invoked against any employee not wishing to work a 6th punch"
Get the union to negotiate it into the contract.
Those who want a 6th punch are welcome to work it, those who do not cannot be required to do so.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

"Work week for drivers shall be 5 days per week"
A 6th day of work shall be on a voluntary basis"
No discipline shall be invoked against any employee not wishing to work a 6th punch"
Get the union to negotiate it into the contract.
Those who want a 6th punch are welcome to work it, those who do not cannot be required to do so.

A sixth punch should be automatic double time forced or not

 

[TarAndFeathers]

The problem with todays package driver, the younger generation is they love PVD’s. Why? Anything to make their life easier. They don’t look at the big picture. I left package for feeders right before PVD’s we’re a thing. I would’ve lost my mind had I been directed to give work to some clown driving a Prius. I would’ve rather worked till 10pm every night and bury them in 9.5 grievances then give one stop to a PVD.

It's a double edged sword for sure and there really is no way to implement a system like that without violating the contract. But rather than giving the work to the PVD drivers, the company could give that work to PT drivers and it would accomplish the same goal but it would be work given to union members from within. Now to be clear, I don't have an issue with you PVD guys personally you are just working as directed, but the PVD position itself is a problem that is hurting the company and screwing those with seniority.

 

[evilleace]

Saying that is like taking your most persuasive bargaining chip and flushing it right down the toilet.

All I'm saying is it's give and take. As much as you may not like it.

 

[imjanedoe]

It's a double edged sword for sure and there really is no way to implement a system like that without violating the contract. But rather than giving the work to the PVD drivers, the company could give that work to PT drivers and it would accomplish the same goal but it would be work given to union members from within. Now to be clear, I don't have an issue with you PVD guys personally you are just working as directed, but the PVD position itself is a problem that is hurting the company and screwing those with seniority.

Pvd for the inside ppl that have the cars to do it, on car driver helper for those that don’t so everyone gets a fair chance. If you don’t want on car help for OT relief then split it another way

**Of course it goes without saying . Better pay

 

[I have been lurking]

It's a double edged sword for sure and there really is no way to implement a system like that without violating the contract. But rather than giving the work to the PVD drivers, the company could give that work to PT drivers and it would accomplish the same goal but it would be work given to union members from within. Now to be clear, I don't have an issue with you PVD guys personally you are just working as directed, but the PVD position itself is a problem that is hurting the company and screwing those with seniority.

OR PROPERLY IMPLEMENT 22.4 AS A COMBO JOB

 

[clean hairy]

A sixth punch should be automatic double time forced or not

Good thought to add that, still though no forcing, voluntary only.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Good thought to add that, still though no forcing, voluntary only.

That would be nice but I don't know if that will happen

 

[zubenelgenubi]

All I'm saying is it's give and take. As much as you may not like it.

I agree, we've given too much over the years, and they've taken and taken. I'm gonna really like taking a lot back.

 

[542thruNthru]

I agree, we've given too much over the years, and they've taken and taken. I'm gonna really like taking a lot back.

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[zubenelgenubi]

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[100%]

I am personally ok with the 8.5, but if everyone else is going for 8, count me in.



Here's my take, I knew taking this job that it wouldn't be 40, but it rarely went over 45, and at peak DOT HOS was the limit. But peak was confined to a 4 week period. Then it slowly became two months, then 4, then, oh, it's September already? Ok, peak again next month. These shivering critters are just happy to have a job.

One thing I like to point out, atleast where I am, is not only we’re we forced to work over 10 and 11, but we lost an hour from our start times. Although the hours have gone down some, we haven’t got that hour back. Why are UPS trucks not on the road by 8-8:30am. Routinely routes aren’t delivering until 10am.

 

[100%]

All I'm saying is it's give and take. As much as you may not like it.

Shouldn’t be this time. When was the last good contract that members talked about? Maybe 97? What happened then? If that’s what it takes, I’m there. #feettothepavement is the only way we get what we want. It’s that simple.

 

[cosmo1]

‘We’re ready to strike’: UPS workers and Teamsters prepare for contract fight — Guardian US

Employees are pushing for better overtime protections, improved pay for part-time employees and heat protections

apple.news

 

[zubenelgenubi]

Shouldn’t be this time. When was the last good contract that members talked about? Maybe 97? What happened then? If that’s what it takes, I’m there. #feettothepavement is the only way we get what we want. It’s that simple.

Sometimes just the threat of a strike is all you need. That doesn't work as well when we have jelly spines in here posting about being afraid to strike.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Sometimes It's just the threat of a strike is all you need. That doesn't work as well when we have jelly spines in here posting about being afraid to strike.

I believe if we have a credible strike threat this time which I believe we will, likely won’t be necessary. Too much is happening in the world and Labor is scarce the company is not quite prepared. The next contract could be quite different.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I believe if we have a credible strike threat this time which I believe we will, likely won’t be necessary. Too much is happening in the world and Labor is scarce the company is not quite prepared. The next contract could be quite different.

Nobody wants to work now, try replacing 300,000 employees

 

[Thebrownblob]

Nobody wants to work now, try replacing 300,000 employees

It would be an insurmountable dilemma for the company at this current time. But do not mistake what I’m saying that the company is not pushing for long-term goals of getting rid of as much labor as possible to achieve their goal.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

It would be an insurmountable dilemma for the company at this current time. But do not mistake what I’m saying that the company is not pushing for long-term goals of getting rid of as much labor as possible to achieve their goal.

But FedEx would love to snap up all that valuable medicine and Air products that we deliver