2023 contract

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Nice deflection on why the company is increasing minimum wage PT jobs instead of creating more FT Union jobs. Except for two tier delivery driver jobs.

Well maybe if part-timers quit agreeing to doing full-time jobs they might actually have to post a full-time job

Deflect off of that please

 

[PT Car Washer]

Well maybe if part-timers quit agreeing to do and full-time jobs they might actually have to post a full-time job

Deflect off of that please

Actually in my building the company has posted at least 10 and I hear another 10 load on Twi /unload on midnight jobs because they can't fill the jobs even at $19/hr or a $75/wk bonus. Now the company will have to pay $35/hr plus FT benefits. Tell me the company can't afford to pay PT members an equal wage.

 

[FromOffTheStreets]

No one? Making $30k/year working PT or $100k/yr working FT means no one will go FT?

Your proposition of 40/hr inside would put a preloader @ 42k/yr minimum.

It would close the revolving door & bring in better workers but eventually every inside position would be filled with people who only want to work 4 hours a day & still make a decent wage.

It would stagnate the crop of potential drivers & they would have to hire them off the street.

Ups needs the revolving door so they can pick out the better workers & dangle a 6 figure income in their face until they need them to drive.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Well maybe if part-timers quit agreeing to do and full-time jobs they might actually have to post a full-time job

Maybe if FT delivery drivers would show up and do their bid jobs, PT air drivers wouldn't have to step in and do their work for them.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Maybe if FT delivery drivers would show up and do their bid jobs, PT air drivers wouldn't have to step in and do their work for them.

Or maybe they need a few more full-time drivers

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Your proposition of 40/hr inside would put a preloader @ 42k/yr minimum.

It would close the revolving door & bring in better workers but eventually every inside position would be filled with people who only want to work 4 hours a day & still make a decent wage.

It would stagnate the crop of potential drivers & they would have to hire them off the street.

Ups needs the revolving door so they can pick out the better workers & dangle a 6 figure income in their face until they need them to drive.

$40 an hour for inside workers would be a minimum of $80,000 a year

The hourly wage is only part of the problem

The part-timers do not realize how much the benefits cost

If you want to make the big bucks then you have to go driving, bottom line

 

[PT Car Washer]

Your proposition of 40/hr inside would put a preloader @ 42k/yr minimum.

It would close the revolving door & bring in better workers but eventually every inside position would be filled with people who only want to work 4 hours a day & still make a decent wage.

It would stagnate the crop of potential drivers & they would have to hire them off the street.

Ups needs the revolving door so they can pick out the better workers & dangle a 6 figure income in their face until they need them to drive.

The company has already stagnated the potential crop of new drivers by paying McDonald wages which only bring in the least qualified new people. I don't remember the last time we promoted a current PT member to 22.4 delivery driver. Your theory of the $100k/yr carrot doesn't work anymore. Any delivery driver coming to work in the morning will tell you that.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Or maybe they need a few more full-time drivers

Just an excuse for a few more delivery drivers to call in sick on Mondays or Fridays.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Just an excuse for a few more delivery drivers to call in sick on Mondays or Fridays.

Last time I checked the contract I do not have unlimited sick days so how many Mondays and Fridays can I call off?

 

[PT Car Washer]

$40 an hour for inside workers would be a minimum of $80,000 a year

The hourly wage is only part of the problem

The part-timers do not realize how much the benefits cost

If you want to make the big bucks then you have to go driving, bottom line

Tell that to the 22.4 delivery drivers working 50 to 60 hours week making less than a high seniority PT. They never hit top rate because they burn out in a few years. Maybe FT delivery drivers should take a pay cut because they have all of these great benefits. $25/hr sounds about right.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Tell that to the 22.4 delivery drivers working 50 to 60 hours week making less than a high seniority PT. They never hit top rate because they burn out in a few years. Maybe FT delivery drivers should take a pay cut because they have all of these great benefits. $25/hr sounds about right.

Well maybe they should eliminate all the car washers and I could wash my own damn truck when I come back to the building.

That would save a ton of money on the benefit packages they pay a part-time washer

 

[PT Car Washer]

Last time I checked the contract I do not have unlimited sick days so how many Mondays and Fridays can I call off?

Last time I checked the company can not discipline you for a medical reason.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Last time I checked the company can not discipline you for a medical reason.

They can come after you for attendance issues unless you are on FMLA.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Well maybe they should eliminate all the car washers and I could wash my own damn truck when I come back to the building.

That would save a ton of money on the benefit packages they pay a part-time washer

Already did that in my building years ago. By contract the company can not eliminate any 22.2 Union members. Of course the members know this so they need the PT car washers to do the work no one else wants to do. I have been eliminated several times just to be brought back.

 

[PT Car Washer]

They can come after you for attendance issues unless you are on FMLA.

We all know attendance for a medical issue is not going anywhere. Especially when the Ctr is over staffed like you propose. How long have you worked here?

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

We all know attendance for a medical issue is not going anywhere. Especially when the Ctr is over staffed like you propose. How long have you worked here?

Long enough but I definitely have many decades of full time seniority on you

 

[UnionStrong]

Long as long as you but I definitely have many decades of full time seniority on you

And you have integrity

 

[PT Car Washer]

Long as long as you but I definitely have many decades of full time seniority on you

Actually I haven't had to fill in for too many delivery drivers this year outside of a few blown out pick ups and shuttle LIB's out to drivers. Did work 13 hours Friday delivering LIB's but mostly just delivering NDA in the AM and car wash. I might hit $90k this year if I have a busy Peak plus my Army pension. Work a few Saturdays delivering NDA at OT rate.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Actually I haven't had to fill in for too many delivery drivers this year outside of a few blown out pick ups and shuttle LIB's out to drivers. Did work 13 hours Friday delivering LIB's but mostly just delivering NDA in the AM and car wash. I might hit $90k this year if I have a busy Peak plus my Army pension. Work a few Saturdays delivering NDA at OT rate.

It's unfortunate you don't get a full-time pension for working your full timer hours

 

[PT Car Washer]

Or maybe they need a few more full-time drivers

At $20/hr and no OT protection hiring more delivery drivers would be a bargain.