6th punch

[BigUnionGuy]

I don't want to kiss your ass too much but that is truly impressive

How to kiss his ass.... without sounding like you are trying ?

 

[Thebrownblob]

Pretty simple fix for those centers that are trying to force a 6th punch. Solidarity. Nobody works a 6th punch not even volunteering until UPS gets it that they can't force. Lean on the language and look around the country. The war is over you just have to make one last stand.

Yep, lots of moaning and groaning on here. Just simply don’t go in.

 

[Trucker Clock]

Not really. Everyone has a sob story but imagine being in progression making 23$ an hour. You see the contract no forced 6 day and decide to make your big play for custody on Sunday/Monday or Saturday/Sunday. Now truckercuck tells you have to find a babysitter for “only 5 weeks” at around 23$ an hour. And now your ex can tell the judge hey he does even stay with lil Johnny he goes to work and leaves him with a baby sitter!
>but your honor we had to make sure our customers didn’t get mad that waited till the last minute to send packages at the cheapest slowest service level.
I don’t think there is any flip out too big the whole claim to fame for unions was
“Thank a union you have a 5 day 40hr workweek”
Now we have scabs like trucker clock and the union itself saying 5 days 60 hours is not enough we need 6 days or the poor corporations won’t be able to survive and no we can’t expect a premium to help them.

And here I thought you were smarter than that.

We've had 6th punch for sometime now. Can it really be forced? No.

We now have a contract that says no forced 6th punch. The Union gave UPS 60 days to work it out. It allowed the 6th punch during this time even though the contract said no 6th punch.

So you think someone is going to make a play for custody exactly 60 days after the contract ratification? You live in a dream world.

UPS asked for an extension, which is not uncommon in running a multi-billion dollar business. UPS asked the Teamsters for entire contract extensions in the past. And yes, Hoffa gave it to them.

The problem here is that the 60 day agreement ended just as peak was starting. This would not be an issue if it was January.

You're making a helluva good living, full medical and full pension, at UPS. But you go ahead and make the Company pay. Tell them no forced 6th punch and let them fall on their face this peak. The Company that affords you a very nice living to raise your family and secure your retirement. Don't give them an extension for peak. Screw them. Make them pay.

 

[10:30 resi]

How to kiss his ass.... without sounding like you are trying ?

I wanted to kiss his ass, just not too much

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

 

[BigUnionGuy]

And here I thought you were smarter than that.

We've had 6th punch for sometime now. Can it really be forced? No.

We now have a contract that says no forced 6th punch. The Union gave UPS 60 days to work it out. It allowed the 6th punch during this time even though the contract said no 6th punch.

So you think someone is going to make a play for custody exactly 60 days after the contract ratification? You live in a dream world.

UPS asked for an extension, which is not uncommon in running a multi-billion dollar business. UPS asked the Teamsters for entire contract extensions in the past. And yes, Hoffa gave it to them.

The problem here is that the 60 day agreement ended just as peak was starting. This would not be an issue if it was January.

You're making a helluva good living, full medical and full pension, at UPS. But you go ahead and make the Company pay. Tell them no forced 6th punch and let them fall on their face this peak. The Company that affords you a very nice living to raise your family and secure your retirement. Don't give them an extension for peak. Screw them. Make them pay.

Calm down.

I think we get your point.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Calm down.

I think we get your point.

You give a company an inch and they take a mile

Then they will pull this crap every peak.

 

[Trucker Clock]

I know I'm a little late here, but I just feel the need to point out that I wanted a strike because I was tired of working 6 days a week and being shipped off to other centers on my "days off."

This job put me in the hospital early in my career and one of my managers called me into the building the next morning just to give a 30min lecture that essentially boiled down to "I'm not sure if you're stupid or lazy but I suspect it's a bit of them both."

THAT'S the culture that we're dealing with so no, sir, you can't play the guilt card with me. I respect that other jobs may be in jeopardy, but I'm working to get the kinks out of mine first and foremost.

And I can respect that. You have a very good reason.

These other people's reasons are because they want to make the company pay. They want to "hurt" the Company with "paybacks."

It is more about making the Company pay, getting back at the man, than it is about the actual 6th punch.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

You give a company an inch and they take a mile

Then they will pull this crap every peak.

Absolutely.

 

[Thebrownblob]

You give a company an inch and they take a mile

Then they will pull this crap every peak.

See you Saturday

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

See you Saturday

At the corner bar?

 

[Brown Down]

You give a company an inch and they take a mile

Then they will pull this crap every peak.

The image of charlie brown and a football being pulled away come to mind. Oh we promise we just need through peak. Then through February. Anyone that believes this companies promises deserves what they get instead.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Absolutely.

It's good money but this job is physically too hard to do it 6 days a week

Plus people would like to enjoy the Holidays.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

See you Saturday

@Future is providing Pizza ?

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

The image of charlie brown and a football being pulled away come to mind. Oh we promise we just need through peak. Then through February. Anyone that believes this companies promises deserves what they get instead.

I don't believe anything this company says

But some of the younger drivers may want to consider working a Saturday or two to put that money away from when things get slow


But with that being said they should have a choice, not forced

 

[Trucker Clock]

You give a company an inch and they take a mile

Yep.

Then they will pull this crap every peak.

I don't think so. They had 60 days to figure it out, but dragged their feet and didn't even try in most areas. They only asked for an extension because they know they screwed up, they didn't hire enough package drivers and now peak is here.

Once it's worked out in January, they will have 11 months to keep working at it before peak. They will have to move schedules and hire more drivers. If they don't have it figured out by then, maybe it is time to shut this Company down.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Yep.



I don't think so. They had 60 days to figure it out, but dragged their feet and didn't even try in most areas. They only asked for an extension because they know they screwed up, they didn't hire enough package drivers and now peak is here.

Once it's worked out in January, they will have 11 months to keep working at it before peak. They will have to move schedules and hire more drivers. If they don't have it figured out by then, maybe it is time to shut this Company down.

Then if they need to help that bad pay a little bit more . Hey double time I might be tempted to work this Saturday or two but not all five of them that's for damn sure

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Once it's worked out in January, they will have 11 months to keep working at it before peak.

Isn't that the old joke ?

The company has been planning on peak season.... since last year ?

 

[Trucker Clock]

Then if they need to help that bad pay a little bit more . Hey double time I might be tempted to work this Saturday or two but not all five of them that's for damn sure

And maybe that's what SOB should have told them. He should have said to pay double time to volunteers before they force anyone. I have agreed with you before. But he didn't. Blame him, not me.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Isn't that the old joke ?

The company has been planning on peak season.... since last year ?

It's a surprise every year...