Thebrownblob
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Ups is 116 years old they’ll get it figured out soon I’m sure….
6th punch
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The company can easily fix this problem by offering double time.
Trucker Clock
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Yep.
But, as you know, this is new language. UPS never likes changes. They fight it tooth and nail. The extension will be over after peak and then UPS will have to figure it out. They will have plenty of extra drivers right off the bat and will not need to force a 6th punch. Then, as volume starts coming back up in March, start hiring more drivers.
Thebrownblob
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I don’t know of any extension. Besides one in October that’s over. Perhaps one exist but I haven’t seen it. Just heard people complaining here in a few places..
We had our BA talk at the morning PCM.
He said no one is going to forced in... Period
Thebrownblob
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Yep not even a rumor about being forced here.
some1else
Banned
Nobody has said that but you.
Imagine doing business with you. Hire a plumber
Plumber “Ok sir that will be 600$ for the repair work about half a day and parts”
Truckerclock “ok agreed go ahead and fix it”
Plumber “ok sir work is completed as agreed can you please pay me now”
Trucker clock “I can give you 200$”
Plumber “what that’s not fair we had an agreement”
Trucker clock “well I can’t afford it you want to punish me? Make my kids starve? My wife can’t get a new coat for Christmas? Why don’t you wait till January and if I need you again I’ll follow our agreement that time. No one is right or wrong here it’s just our opinion”
Plumber “I am putting a mechanics lien in your house maroon”
But somehow with ups you have Stockholm syndrome and think they are entitled to not follow contractual agreements.
But management is trying
I sent you a copy of that message.
Of course I didn't get that message....
Thebrownblob
Well-Known Member
Management tries all kind of things. And they only target the weak.
Thebrownblob
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The funniest lie right now, is that every single seasonal has been told their guaranteed a position by management. Some of these people read the reports about 170 K and have quit their job to Try this. I don’t have the heart to tell them December 26. They won’t be working here anymore. 
such a slimy way to do business.
such a slimy way to do business.Unless they are in the CentralThe funniest lie right now, is that every single seasonal has been told their guaranteed a position by management. Some of these people read the reports about 170 K and have quit their job to Try this. I don’t have the heart to tell them December 26. They won’t be working here anymore.
I'm sure it's going to be quite a few job openings at the beginning of the year
Thebrownblob
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Yes, there will be, and most of them will come from the inside. Those employees are not stupid enough to do seasonal driving when they can make a lot more money double shifting through peak.
But if it was smart they would go seasonal driving see if it's something they actually want to do
some1else
Banned
We are blaming you becuase you are supporting him. We are saying no forced we should get double time to entice volunteers and you told us that will cost 6 million jobs and we are schadenfreuding the company. The issue isn’t forced or ups goes out of business. The issue is let them violate the contract or get the work done as they agreed without forcing. You know they would have plenty of volunteers so I don’t know why you are perpetuating that false dichotomy other than cowardice or cash.
Thebrownblob
Well-Known Member
I can guarantee you they don’t want to do seasonal driving this year. It’s a disaster already.
TheBrownNote
Good thing I wore my brown pants
6 million sounds a bit high to me
Trucker Clock
Well-Known Member
Neither one affects me. I can retire anytime I want and will be just fine. Work another year or two and I can afford that vacation house.
I support my president and his decisions. I voted for him to make decisions that he needs to make. I never heard any bitching when Hoffa extended entire contracts, for months at a time. UPS is asking for a 30 day extension on the 60 day extension they already had. It's not the end of the world.
OK.
Never said that.
The 6th punch was not in force after ratification. We worked for 60 days during the new contract without the no 6th punch clause. UPS asked for an extension. I agreed with SOB. If he disagreed and didn't give it to them, that is my president's decision and I could live with that. He made the choice without consulting me, or any of the other 330,000 Teamsters.
But that is why we elected him. To make the tough choices, right or wrong in our eyes.
some1else
Banned
No I do not elect people to make the wrong choices.
Where's my retro?
