710, 705?

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Very professional website----much better than ours (687).

Two things concerned me:

1. Retiree healthcare capped at $50/month until all contracts are settled. Does this mean that they could jack up their rates once 710 settles their contract?

2. What is this 2 hour (now 90 minute) gap time review?

 

[AnonyMusser]

For some reason it wasn't showing up on Google either but I'm guessing cause it just went up a couple days ago.

 

[Ron Carey lives on]

I've met guys (rank and file) from 710, Upsers. We went over and picketted a Ups center in 97. They came out and were happy to see us. My question is, has no strike clause ever changed in any of your proposals

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[O/C]

The retiree's co-pay will go, just stays the same till the contract passes. The 2 hour gap applies to 22-3 jobs, when to separate shifts are combined to create a full time position. Question is how are the improvements in your pension benefits and whether you guys are going into the enhanced teamcare coverages?

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[VonDutch]

I see one of the changes was four year progression for new drivers.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I see one of the changes was four year progression for new drivers.

Same here.

 

[jumpman23]

And next contract they will push for the salary cap on new drivers like they proposed on this contract. They wont get it but the union will cave in again and give them the 5 year progression. And once again idiots will vote yes on another garbage contract.

 

[710 steward]

And next contract they will push for the salary cap on new drivers like they proposed on this contract. They wont get it but the union will cave in again and give them the 5 year progression. And once again idiots will vote yes on another garbage contract.

Completely agree. Don't forget continued record profits too.

 

[AnonyMusser]

I'll be voting no. I can't find much to complain about with the Teamcare provisions themselves, though the vision portion seems like a downgrade. Even a partial downgrade when the company has been doing gangbusters is unacceptable. That and the raises are fairly anemic.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I'll be voting no. I can't find much to complain about with the Teamcare provisions themselves, though the vision portion seems like a downgrade. Even a partial downgrade when the company has been doing gangbusters is unacceptable. That and the raises are fairly anemic.

You may as well vote "yes" because the IBT will impose the contract if it is voted down.

 

[710 steward]

You may as well vote "yes" because the IBT will impose the contract if it is voted down.

Is this a fact based prediction or your own personal opinion?

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Is this a fact based prediction or your own personal opinion?

Is this a fact based prediction or your own personal opinion?

Opinion based on recent events.

 

[VonDutch]

You may as well vote "yes" because the IBT will impose the contract if it is voted down.

The IBT won't impose it on them after the first NO vote.
With that kind of thinking how fast did you guys in NY sell your soul?

 

[AnonyMusser]

You may as well vote "yes" because the IBT will impose the contract if it is voted down.

I doubt they will on the first try and for that matter I'm not going to be bullied by people I thought I was paying to protect the interests of me and my coworkers.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

The IBT won't impose it on them after the first NO vote.
With that kind of thinking how fast did you guys in NY sell your soul?

Our supplement was voted down on the first try. The company wanted 4 x 10's for feeders and to limit the movement between package and feeders. It passed easily once they took those two provisions out.

 

[VonDutch]

Our supplement was voted down on the first try. The company wanted 4 x 10's for feeders and to limit the movement between package and feeders. It passed easily once they took those two provisions out.

So your statement contradicts what took place in your local yet it's your advice for another?

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

So your statement contradicts what took place in your local yet it's your advice for another?

With their recent history I don't see the IBT showing a whole of patience with repeated "no" votes.

 

[VonDutch]

With their recent history I don't see the IBT showing a whole of patience with repeated "no" votes.

The contract was only imposed on those at an outright stalemate after numerous no votes and implications of work stoppage. 705 has only gotten to the tentative agreement stage. They are far from having it imposed on them.

 

[cosmo1]

Is this a fact based prediction or your own personal opinion?

Dave has his finger on the pulse of all things UPS/Teamsters.

 

[VonDutch]

Dave has his finger on the pulse of all things UPS/Teamsters.

Checking to see if his fellow union workers are dead so he can pick their pocket?