710, 705?
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TheFigurehead
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As a member of 705, I can only suggest you give up. You'd have an easier time finding Jimmy Hoffa, digging up the body, and asking him, than to get so much as a single shred of information about what might be going on with 705. If you have another job, or family commitments and can't drive to downtown Chicago to be there in person, no one will tell you.
hondo
promoted to mediocrity
There are several public transportation options, to get to Teamster City; even on Sundays. There was a very good turnout last week, including PT.
When there is a tentative agreement, there will be a special meeting held, to discuss the changes. A copy of the changes will be mailed to you, along with your ballot. Make sure the union has your current address.
The next regularly scheduled general meeting will be Sunday November 16.
TheFigurehead
Well-Known Member
Its not a transportation issue (for me at least). Most part timers have second jobs and/or school. Many times, this involves working on the weekends. While I agree that people should be encouraged to attend, those who can need to be aware that many are unable to. Withholding information does nothing to help the teamsters cause. It's disheartening and offensive.
The drivers in my building may know what is going on... I have no idea. The rest of us work at night. In as far as the part timers in my building are concerned, the union is non existent. Sure, we (theoretically) work under the contract, but otherwise, our "leaders" are non existent. There is no dissemination of information. There is no representation. Neither I, nor my coworkers, could find a steward if our lives depended on it. No one has ever met one.
No one I work with has ever filed a greivance. They would have no idea how to go about it, nor has anyone ever seen a grievance form. Management runs roughshod over the hourlies constantly. No one complains as the will be immediate consequences. The union is non existent at these hours of the day, and management knows it.
It's a sad affair, and would take only the slightest amount of effort on the part of our representatives to solve. That this doesn't happen can only really leave us with a few explanations:
1. The union is so weak as to be totally useless.
or
2. Our local leaders are impossibly lazy or incompetent.
or, as seems to be the general consensus
3. Our representatives are in bed with management.
In the end, the results are the same... we are not represented. As someone who must work multiple jobs to make ends meet, like most of my co-workers, I cannot attend the meetings. If we must attend the meetings in order to have sort of relationship with the union that claims to represent us, then the union is truly broken... or at least my local is.
There are only two options... if meeting attendance is required for representation, then get us an hourly wage that allows part timers to attend... or, much more simply, get off your lazy a$$e$, introduce yourselves to the people you "represent" and give us a little information once in a while. A flyer and a business card would suffice. "I'm your steward, here's a flyer with all the information on 705, a link to the contract, and the numbers for all your representatives. Feel free to call or text me if you have any questions or concerns. I work in section x, if you need to come find me," If you made even the slightest effort to make package handlers feel included, you'd have a lot more participation. Most of my coworkers don't even know what local they belong to, much less when or where they hold meetings.
It's a sad state of affairs, and 705 is 100% to blame.
The drivers in my building may know what is going on... I have no idea. The rest of us work at night. In as far as the part timers in my building are concerned, the union is non existent. Sure, we (theoretically) work under the contract, but otherwise, our "leaders" are non existent. There is no dissemination of information. There is no representation. Neither I, nor my coworkers, could find a steward if our lives depended on it. No one has ever met one.
No one I work with has ever filed a greivance. They would have no idea how to go about it, nor has anyone ever seen a grievance form. Management runs roughshod over the hourlies constantly. No one complains as the will be immediate consequences. The union is non existent at these hours of the day, and management knows it.
It's a sad affair, and would take only the slightest amount of effort on the part of our representatives to solve. That this doesn't happen can only really leave us with a few explanations:
1. The union is so weak as to be totally useless.
or
2. Our local leaders are impossibly lazy or incompetent.
or, as seems to be the general consensus
3. Our representatives are in bed with management.
In the end, the results are the same... we are not represented. As someone who must work multiple jobs to make ends meet, like most of my co-workers, I cannot attend the meetings. If we must attend the meetings in order to have sort of relationship with the union that claims to represent us, then the union is truly broken... or at least my local is.
There are only two options... if meeting attendance is required for representation, then get us an hourly wage that allows part timers to attend... or, much more simply, get off your lazy a$$e$, introduce yourselves to the people you "represent" and give us a little information once in a while. A flyer and a business card would suffice. "I'm your steward, here's a flyer with all the information on 705, a link to the contract, and the numbers for all your representatives. Feel free to call or text me if you have any questions or concerns. I work in section x, if you need to come find me," If you made even the slightest effort to make package handlers feel included, you'd have a lot more participation. Most of my coworkers don't even know what local they belong to, much less when or where they hold meetings.
It's a sad state of affairs, and 705 is 100% to blame.
VonDutch
Bite your tongue, Missy
Sounds like you need to put your hat in the ring to become a union steward.
UPSwife0174
Well-Known Member
FWIW, 710 isn't much better. Asking questions on this board can sometimes get you slammed by the been-there, done-that people, but the reality is exactly what you described for many. The union stewards are NOT easily reached/known for some. Messages left don't get answered, management can't answer many basic questions.
That's why,people need to go to the union meetings. Find out answers. Get to meet your B.A. and Stewards.
Unfortunately the only time people get involved,is when they get in trouble.
TheFigurehead
Well-Known Member
Have you not read anything anyone has said? I work days and weekends along with UPS at night. I cannot attend the meetings. I cannot "get to meet my BA and stewards", as I, nor any of my co workers, have the slightest idea who or where they are.
Make yourself known! or find a co-worker,thats friends with the steward or BA.
VonDutch
Bite your tongue, Missy
What building are you out of that's so union representation barren?
hondo
promoted to mediocrity
I believe some of the problem is also the shift and work area he's at.
VonDutch
Bite your tongue, Missy
There's what, the big four? Palatine, Addison, Jeff st, and CACH?
hondo
promoted to mediocrity
You left out Bedford Park
Coldworld
Well-Known Member
Classy post...really sick of all of the burger references when someone has an issue with a workplace problem at ups...if you havent already figured out this brown cafe is mostly an outlet to bitch about the in's and outs of brown..and many of the issues are spot on...
Thats the only reply I can use. When people refuse to go to union meetings. Or do not even know,who their steward or BA is. Then cry about a certain issues!
Get involved or get left behind.
Coldworld
Well-Known Member
I agree with you on that..for sure, this would be a much better company if all of us became involved with the union and were educated on our rights which many people out in the workforce would love to have..but most of us could leave ups today and find employment other than a burger flipper.
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