710, 705?

[slantnosechevy]

Obamacare opened the door for this. Like all gov`t. programs there is more going out than coming in. That means we who work will pay. UPS employees aren't the only ones getting it broke off in their arse. Part timers need to get involved and vote that's their only chance. Some care like yourself, but that's not enough.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Yes it is true, its part of the negotiating process after contract was voted down. Again why are you posting on this thread? Are you in 705 or 710?

Back pay is guaranteed and will be paid soon after the new contract is ratified or imposed.

 

[babboo25]

Back pay is guaranteed and will be paid soon after the new contract is ratified or imposed.

You are amazing. I never said it wasn't guaranteed, go away.

 

[babboo25]

Grateful? For what? UPS holding up their end of the bargain? That's the deal they made. I work my @$$ of for a year for just about minimum wage, and I am then entitled to benefits. I'm not grateful... I've earned it, and I intend to vote in my best interest. UPS is not some magnanimous altruistic entity that wants what's best for it's employees... they are corporate profiteers who will greedily pocket any penny they can get their grubby little fingers on. You, the employee, are no longer a benefit to the company... You are a liability and an expense... the one thing that stands between them and higher profits. If UPS could replace us all with 9 year old indonesian slaves tomorrow, they'd do it in a heartbeat, without a second thought to you or me.
You seem very educated but spiteful. Why are you still at UPS?

Conversely, if the Teamsters could find a way to line their pockets off of that arrangement, Hoffa Jr would gladly let it happen.

 

[UPSJedi2112]

Grateful? For what? UPS holding up their end of the bargain? That's the deal they made. I work my @$$ of for a year for just about minimum wage, and I am then entitled to benefits. I'm not grateful... I've earned it, and I intend to vote in my best interest. UPS is not some magnanimous altruistic entity that wants what's best for it's employees... they are corporate profiteers who will greedily pocket any penny they can get their grubby little fingers on. You, the employee, are no longer a benefit to the company... You are a liability and an expense... the one thing that stands between them and higher profits. If UPS could replace us all with 9 year old indonesian slaves tomorrow, they'd do it in a heartbeat, without a second thought to you or me.

Conversely, if the Teamsters could find a way to line their pockets off of that arrangement, Hoffa Jr would gladly let it happen.

9 year Indonesian slaves...that's outstanding.

 

[jpf75]

The one thing that matters the most is that everybody votes weather it's yes or no!! There are lots of people that b$&$$& but they don't vote!!!

 

[VonDutch]

Is that what I said dip? I'm weak? Funny

That's Miss Dip to you. Now go get on your knees and vote yes like UPS wants you to.

 

[babboo25]

That's Miss Dip to you. Now go get on your knees and vote yes like UPS wants you to.

I will vote yes. Have a nice day.

 

[babboo25]

Grateful? For what? UPS holding up their end of the bargain? That's the deal they made. I work my @$$ of for a year for just about minimum wage, and I am then entitled to benefits. I'm not grateful... I've earned it, and I intend to vote in my best interest. UPS is not some magnanimous altruistic entity that wants what's best for it's employees... they are corporate profiteers who will greedily pocket any penny they can get their grubby little fingers on. You, the employee, are no longer a benefit to the company... You are a liability and an expense... the one thing that stands between them and higher profits. If UPS could replace us all with 9 year old indonesian slaves tomorrow, they'd do it in a heartbeat, without a second thought to you or me.

Conversely, if the Teamsters could find a way to line their pockets off of that arrangement, Hoffa Jr would gladly let it happen.

You seem like an educated but spiteful person. Why do you still work at UPS?

 

[AnonyMusser]

Correct babboo and it would've had to be re-negotiated when talks resume. Insurance would've been gone for current employees also. Thankfully it never came to that.

No vote doesn't eliminate back pay or insurance. Cancelled extension and an impass does.

Not a single BA or steward or anyone from the negotiating committee has said anything of the sort and they are trying their damnedest to get us to vote yes. If that were at all true they would have added that to their pile of scare tactics.

 

[slantnosechevy]

Not a single BA or steward or anyone from the negotiating committee has said anything of the sort and they are trying their damnedest to get us to vote yes. If that were at all true they would have added that to their pile of scare tactics.

Ok brainstorm what do YOU think would've happened if that committee reached an impasse, gave the 72 hour strike notice, and then hit the street? You would've had Cola notices within a few days. Everyone is lucky it never went that far.

Scare tactics? Maybe that committee and all involved got everything they could get and feel it needs to be voted in. We'll know in about a week what they did for sure. Then you can put your skirt on and cry real loud.

 

[AnonyMusser]

Ok brainstorm what do YOU think would've happened if that committee reached an impasse, gave the 72 hour strike notice, and then hit the street? You would've had Cola notices within a few days. Everyone is lucky it never went that far.

Scare tactics? Maybe that committee and all involved got everything they could get and feel it needs to be voted in. We'll know in about a week what they did for sure. Then you can put your skirt on and cry real loud.

I definitely know they wouldn't have lost back pay. No idea why you think that's just something UPS agreed to out of the kindness of their hearts, everyone's gotten back pay every time a contract came through late. Keep insulting and being condescending, you've made no point.

 

[slantnosechevy]

I definitely know they wouldn't have lost back pay. No idea why you think that's just something UPS agreed to out of the kindness of their hearts, everyone's gotten back pay every time a contract came through late. Keep insulting and being condescending, you've made no point.

Back pay is not guaranteed when the contract extension is eliminated. If a strike is called everything is open to bargaining. Back pay becomes a bargaining chip for the company. Would hourly get it....probably would. But it's not guaranteed.
Just another myth like the famous " no strike clause" in 710. There's no such thing.

Condescending?? Read some of your past posts.

 

[HollandMan73]

Well.....anybody hear any more specifics? Or are the highlights on the 710 site basically it?

 

[Atomic_Smurf]

Well.....anybody hear any more specifics? Or are the highlights on the 710 site basically it?

Hardly any changes whatsoever. The union, the insurance companies and the Democrats are in the backroom dividing our healthcare dollars amongst themselves & the discrepancy will have to be paid out of our pockets. This contract is the biggest sham I've seen since the passage of the Affordable Care Act.

 

[mixyo]

Voting "no" is not going to accomplish anything. We are the last two locals in the country to hold out, there's simply no way we're going to be able to keep the insurance we have. People are going to have to accept that.

 

[Atomic_Smurf]

Voting "no" is not going to accomplish anything. We are the last two locals in the country to hold out, there's simply no way we're going to be able to keep the insurance we have. People are going to have to accept that.

We can keep the insurance we have just as we have kept it to date. Just have to hold out till the Affordable Care Act is dismantled by the new senate, collapses under its own weight or is killed once for all by the supreme court in June. I for one am going to vote to take that chance.

 

[AnonyMusser]

Condescending?? Read some of your past posts.

I've been nothing but courteous in my time in here.

 

[710 steward]

I've been nothing but courteous in my time in here.

You're dealing with Slant. He is the village idiot in a global village. Don't worry about it. You are fine. You have thoughts and beliefs and he bases his opinions on what he's told to believe. Read enough of his posts and this person says this and that person says that. If he's not led around like a dog on a leash he isn't happy. Keep fighting your fight.

 

[Mugarolla]

Back pay is not guaranteed when the contract extension is eliminated. If a strike is called everything is open to bargaining. Back pay becomes a bargaining chip for the company. Would hourly get it....probably would. But it's not guaranteed.
Just another myth like the famous " no strike clause" in 710. There's no such thing.

Condescending?? Read some of your past posts.

Backpay is only guaranteed if the new contract calls for raises in the 1st and 2nd year of the contract. So backpay is not guaranteed until the contract is settled.

I find it hard to believe that the union would settle for a contract that had no raises in it until the 3rd year, and then a $2 raise. But if this was the case, there would be no retro checks.

The retro checks will be for the negotiated raise that was not paid yet. If there is no raise, there is no retro checks. Very unlikely to happen, but there are no guarantees.