8.6 to 8.2 planned day update

Vacation

Active Member
Not sure but I’m out of the San Jose building. Haven’t seen post Christmas lay-offs since before 2000 and as far as the recession.....there was a bump but barley noticeable. We’ve not seen things like this in my neck of the woods for a long time.

That was my point. It’s been a longtime since this was the norm. He said his Sup never seen anything like this before.
 

Brown287

Im not the Mail Man!
That was my point. It’s been a longtime since this was the norm. He said his Sup never seen anything like this before.
That was me.....don’t know about your building but most of my Sup’s aren’t exactly what I’d call senior management
 

BakerMayfield2018

Fight the power.
And 275 in Monday when the cibcontr gets voted down.
Holy......,,
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Over disciplined0123

Well-Known Member
I recently posted information about the new plan that our center had started everyone has an 8.6 planned day. Now we are into the third phase of this after 2 1/2 months. The third phase is now 8.5 planned a day nobody that includes union shop steward's safety and people who drive The air shuttle for an example The air shuttle who picks up the air is in the morning and brings them to the center normally takes about three hours now he is only eligible for another 4 1/2 hours so they have cut that route and a half where previously he would do a normal route day on top of four hours of work because he cannot extend past 9 1/2 hours now everyone else has an 85 day they're trying to push everyone being in at 8 1/2. Just like you guys I was extremely skeptical but I truly believe this company is heading in that direction in addition the company has hired in our center five new drivers to make this plan work in the meantime they have changed all pick ups that would infringe upon drivers make the 85 planned a day so they all have a new pick up times. I will tell you in my 31 years of working with this company I never seen that coming a lot of guys now are truly complaining about the loss of wages because of the lack of overtime and now they're talking about in the end everyone we have an 8.2 day meaning everyone would be in an 8.2 hours. Now I know a lot of guys complain about the overtime but those same guys now are actually working on Saturdays. I mean go figure?truly this is not right they should allow those who want to work the overtime do it and for those that don't should be able to opt out. Anyhow this is one of the reasons why I do not like the new contract they should allow those that want the overtime to get it. apparently it's actually happening in 25 other centers and they are supposed to add more companywide in October. I know sometimes I read things here and think no way that'll never happen and then it comes to our center but this I truly feel they are going to make happen. I know one of the other things Will be is Christmas they can't do it during Christmas according to the center manager they are trying to keep that plan day we actually already have all of the golf carts and trailers at our center I know the middle of October they can start using Christmas help and they anticipate doing that to keep the driver is payday down. Like I said after 31 years of being here I have never seen the company be so aggressive and doing this and getting rid of overtime for all the drivers. I will keep you posted as I hear more.
Wow we get sent out with plan days of 8.8 to 9.2
 

Grey

Well-Known Member
They have definitely reduced stop counts in terms of resi but they don’t seem to understand that it doesn’t really make a difference. For some reason they can bomb a split with 100% resi but can’t add a split with significantly less resi and 20-25 business stops that would helps three routes in the loop.
 

35years

Gravy route
Back when I started...
8.2-8.3 day was the standard
Around 1990 it went to 8.7
By 2000 it was 9.2
By 2015 it was 9.7 avg planned day for the entire center.

You guys are finally seeing the job I originally signed up for. Off the clock most days in 7.5 hours when I was a young runner. And we never worked over 12 even at peak.

Real limits on forced OT should have been addressed in the contract.
 
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