Abortion

bacha29

Well-Known Member
The two words every Democrat apparently hates: personal responsibility. And from the time it's born until the end of it's life is also known as the government taking care of us from cradle to grave. And that's exactly the predicament we're in, we spend, spend, spend on programs that never seem to work, saying the government has the answers when it not only doesn't but often, almost always, makes things worse. The government should provide physical safety. It should provide a fair playing field to allow everyone an equal opportunity to compete. Beyond that it should do what the majority decides it should through voting without trying to force things that violate one's belief system(with certain limitations of course). It should basically get out of our lives but be in the background to step in before things get out of hand like a good referee should.
Van get off your soap box and get out your wallet. As long as the pro lifers continue to willfully ignore the social and economic consequences the overturning of Roe vs Wade would undeniably produce the issue is going nowhere. In addition they keep pushing their agenda based on their view of morality while continuing to ignore the economics and have been doing so for the past 46 years . All they want is for their morality to become the law of the land because it's all they have. They don't have any money and that's the reason why nobody's paying any attention to them anymore.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Van get off your soap box and get out your wallet. As long as the pro lifers continue to willfully ignore the social and economic consequences the overturning of Roe vs Wade would undeniably produce the issue is going nowhere. In addition they keep pushing their agenda based on their view of morality while continuing to ignore the economics and have been doing so for the past 46 years . All they want is for their morality to become the law of the land because it's all they have. They don't have any money and that's the reason why nobody's paying any attention to them anymore.
Well which is it...get out your wallet or we don't have money anymore?
 
F

Frankie's Friend

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And turned them into procreated farm slaves in order to survive. I know, I was one .
"One" of the few kids who grew up with a great work ethic.
I was raised in a county that had the highest percentage of farms in our state and the kids that grew up on those farms were the most successful young people I've ever met per capita.

Their sports programs won more state championships than any other high school in the state.

Discipline, humility, and respect were easily seen as the qualities these young folks portrayed.
 

bacha29

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"One" of the few kids who grew up with a great work ethic.
I was raised in a county that had the highest percentage of farms in our state and the kids that grew up on those farms were the most successful young people I've ever met per capita.

Their sports programs won more state championships than any other high school in the state.

Discipline, humility, and respect were easily seen as the qualities these young folks portrayed.
But how many of them stayed and continued to work those lands? Given that the average age of an American farmer is 59 doesn't look like there were many who did. So please spare me your "Green Acres" view of rural America. The numbers speak otherwise and will become even more evident after the 2020 census.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
Please enlighten me how to properly conduct an abortion within 48 hours of scheduled birth delivery?
Why do you think he brings it up?

Literally no one wants to have a late term abortion. The guy has a fundamentalist Christian agenda to sell, so he tries to manipulate people's emotions.

Guess it worked on you.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
Well which is it...get out your wallet or we don't have money anymore?
A political movement in 21st century America is driven by money and law is not made on the basis of one small groups idea of morality. As long as the pro lifers continue to refuse to address the impact an overturning of Roe will have on the public coffers RVW will remain finished law. You keep carping about the need to control public spending....Well, this is one way to do it In addition the federal budget process requires that if you spend additional money in one area it is to be cut someplace else.....And don't forget the deficits you are always belly aching about.
 

Brownslave688

You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
But how many of them stayed and continued to work those lands? Given that the average age of an American farmer is 59 doesn't look like there were many who did. So please spare me your "Green Acres" view of rural America. The numbers speak otherwise and will become even more evident after the 2020 census.
Just because they didn’t stay on the farm to work doesn’t mean they didn’t learn the tools and values that have lead to success later in life there.


We had trouble keeping part timers for the longest time. HR was hiring college students and minoriities almost exclusively. Many local farmers sons and daughters had been trying to get on for awhile. Finally after a few years of the average pt leaving in week one or two they started hiring farmers kids.

Suddenly turnover was much less and many have become drivers. They learned the work ethic on the farm but applied it somewhere else.
 

bacha29

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" A nation is without hope that kills its own children ." -- Mother Teresa
Americans are not all Catholic. In addition she spent her entire life trying to improve the squalid conditions in Calcutta and other similar areas. So it begs the question: if you can't take care of the kids you already have ,why have more? Now why are there scores of people pounding on the doors of our Southern border demanding to get in? According to UN figures the population of Honduras has grown 500 % since 1950. Want to know what the problem is? Well, there it is.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
Just because they didn’t stay on the farm to work doesn’t mean they didn’t learn the tools and values that have lead to success later in life there.


We had trouble keeping part timers for the longest time. HR was hiring college students and minoriities almost exclusively. Many local farmers sons and daughters had been trying to get on for awhile. Finally after a few years of the average pt leaving in week one or two they started hiring farmers kids.

Suddenly turnover was much less and many have become drivers. They learned the work ethic on the farm but applied it somewhere else.
If they are so virtuous in their nature and upbringing why are they leaving the farm?
 

BadIdeaGuy

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If they are so virtuous in their nature and upbringing why are they leaving the farm?

One of the best drivers at my center is a farmer. Don't know how he juggles both, but the man is a machine. Really great guy.

We definitely could use more like him. HR thinks otherwise, given the crop of new people we've been getting.
 

BrownFlush

Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
Americans are not all Catholic. In addition she spent her entire life trying to improve the squalid conditions in Calcutta and other similar areas. So it begs the question: if you can't take care of the kids you already have ,why have more? Now why are there scores of people pounding on the doors of our Southern border demanding to get in? According to UN figures the population of Honduras has grown 500 % since 1950. Want to know what the problem is? Well, there it is.
I'm not Catholic. I liked the quote.
Your justification for abortion is we can't take care of the kids we have ?
We can't take care of the homeless we have either. Using your reasoning, let's kill them. That will take care of the "problem" as you define it.
The "problem " starts way before the murder.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
One of the best drivers at my center is a farmer. Don't know how he juggles both, but the man is a machine. Really great guy.

We definitely could use more like him. HR thinks otherwise, given the crop of new people we've been getting.
You can sing the praises of them all you want but it still doesn't answer the question of why are they there?
 
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