Abortion

bacha29

Well-Known Member
I'm not Catholic. I liked the quote.
Your justification for abortion is we can't take care of the kids we have ?
We can't take care of the homeless we have either. Using your reasoning, let's kill them. That will take care of the "problem" as you define it.
The "problem " starts way before the murder.
And with proper family planning and access to birth control regardless of personal income perhaps we wouldn't have so many homeless.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
Insurance? Even more money? Steady work year round, instead of seasonal?

You don't know many farmers, do you?
I was the son of a dairy farmer. I milked and cared for cows and crops longer than I should have in an attempt to keep one modest income in place .That being the income of my parents who in the end divorced after 41 years of marriage. I too farmed during the day and worked a factory job at night so don't tell me that i don't know farmers. Furthermore work ethic doesn't stop couples from seeking abortions.
 

Serf

Well-Known Member
Why do you think he brings it up?

Literally no one wants to have a late term abortion. The guy has a fundamentalist Christian agenda to sell, so he tries to manipulate people's emotions.

Guess it worked on you.
Speculation. I'm just remarking on how terrible that process is. Abortion as a Sacrament in the US is sad.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
Speculation. I'm just remarking on how terrible that process is. Abortion as a Sacrament in the US is sad.
Well I would say it cheapens any argument the pro-birth crowd has when people compare discarding an embryo to a late term abortion.... but I guess sadness sells their lame religious agenda.
 

BrownFlush

Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
Furthermore work ethic doesn't stop couples from seeking abortions.
Thats right. Good workers get abortions.
Morality is what stops couples from seeking abortions.
And what specific family planning practices do you endorse as well as appose?
Yeah, I'm going to open up on this forum my parenting skills and how to raise your children.
I will say this. My three adult children know abortion is wrong. They also know there are consequences for their actions. If one of them would have been involved with an unwanted pregnancy, the consequence would be the responsibility of raising a kid. None of them would have even considered murdering the kid to clean up their mess.
 

Brownslave688

You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
One of the best drivers at my center is a farmer. Don't know how he juggles both, but the man is a machine. Really great guy.

We definitely could use more like him. HR thinks otherwise, given the crop of new people we've been getting.
A large percentage of our drivers farm also. Not sure where that falls on the DOT hours worked list but if they count I’m sure tons of drivers across the country violate.
 

Brownslave688

You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
If they are so virtuous in their nature and upbringing why are they leaving the farm?
Many stay but it’s simple economics at this point. The family farm cannot compete with the mega corporation farms. If they do stay they have other jobs.


I’m not sure why they wouldn’t be allowed to live their own life and do what they want.
 

bacha29

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Many stay but it’s simple economics at this point. The family farm cannot compete with the mega corporation farms. If they do stay they have other jobs.


I’m not sure why they wouldn’t be allowed to live their own life and do what they want.
Exactly which should include the right to seek a safe legal abortion if the circumstances warrant it. It today's Republicans who are always hollering "freedom" which includes freedom from government intervention only to have it replaced by certain religious doctrine as it pertains to a woman's reproductive rights and. decisions.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
Thats right. Good workers get abortions.
Morality is what stops couples from seeking abortions.

Yeah, I'm going to open up on this forum my parenting skills and how to raise your children.
I will say this. My three adult children know abortion is wrong. They also know there are consequences for their actions. If one of them would have been involved with an unwanted pregnancy, the consequence would be the responsibility of raising a kid. None of them would have even considered murdering the kid to clean up their mess.
And access to birth control products and support simply helps to make the outcome you speak off easier and a bit more certain.
 

Brownslave688

You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
Exactly which should include the right to seek a safe legal abortion if the circumstances warrant it. It today's Republicans who are always hollering "freedom" which includes freedom from government intervention only to have it replaced by certain religious doctrine as it pertains to a woman's reproductive rights and. decisions.
The difference is in who has what rights. Pro lifers think the unborn child’s right to life superceeds the mothers rights.


Neither side will ever convince the other of anything.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
The difference is in who has what rights. Pro lifers think the unborn child’s right to life superceeds the mothers rights.


Neither side will ever convince the other of anything.
And the SCOTUS decision on Roe vs Wade was a way of keeping the US government out of an impossible situation by simply saying that the option of an abortion is there. Just that....an option... nothing more. if the pro lifers want to ban abortion then to them all i say is.....show me the money because it still comes down to a question of money.
 

BrownFlush

Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
And the SCOTUS decision on Roe vs Wade was a way of keeping the US government out of an impossible situation by simply saying that the option of an abortion is there. Just that....an option... nothing more. if the pro lifers want to ban abortion then to them all i say is.....show me the money because it still comes down to a question of money.
If abortion was against the law ( say everyone admitted it is murder), do you think a kid might take unprotected or casual sex a little more serious ? God forbid we live in a society that pushes responsibly .
 
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