amazon and saturdays?

[Orion inc.]

We currently bid routes so there is no way this can work under the contract agreement. ups can think and do whatever they want but this idea is not how stuff work.

An arbitrator would have a field day with ups.

This right here.

 

[Brown287]

I've read a lot of the posts on here, it's amazing how little a lot of you understand about the contract. The possibility of a Tues-Sat schedule was covered in the contract pretty clearly. 2008 is the magic year, as far as if they can do it contractually? Well they can do almost anything and everything they want due to one passage, "operational necessity".
So as you can see, it's happening. All you can do is plan accordingly.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

For all the union talk, I was told our BA already met with district manager and is on board. We are screwed.

What does your local supplement say?

 

[Jasoonis]

I'm not saying they met with national. I know they met with our local, and in our contract it already says a workweek consists of ANY five consecutive days of 8 hours. No specific day is ever mentioned except for Sunday, which is double time.

I only know what I have been told by the guy implementing it in our building and the two other buildings near us.

Nationally this will be a longer process and I hope the National fight this some how, but the writing has been on the wall for awhile now for a Saturday full work day.

I think it's complete BS, and the fact they are just springing this on us with only a month notice is ridiculous as well. I have a feeling this will be a gigantic failure on every level. Customer service, safety, driver moral etc.

 

[Jasoonis]

I've read a lot of the posts on here, it's amazing how little a lot of you understand about the contract. The possibility of a Tues-Sat schedule was covered in the contract pretty clearly. 2008 is the magic year, as far as if they can do it contractually? Well they can do almost anything and everything they want due to one passage, "operational necessity".
So as you can see, it's happening. All you can do is plan accordingly.

Exactly what he said. It is happening 100%, for us it's starting September 1st, it might be 6 months or a year for the rest of the of the National work force. But again from what I am hearing they have a time table of 18 months for full implementation on a national scale.

 

[Orion inc.]

I've read a lot of the posts on here, it's amazing how little a lot of you understand about the contract. The possibility of a Tues-Sat schedule was covered in the contract pretty clearly. 2008 is the magic year, as far as if they can do it contractually? Well they can do almost anything and everything they want due to one passage, "operational necessity".
So as you can see, it's happening. All you can do is plan accordingly.

You're talking about changing the bid process and completely wiping out parts of the master. That would require ups to go through the grievance procedures on a national level.

I would assume they would have to inform hall or something.

An arbitrator would have a field day if this is being implemented the way it says in this thread.

 

[MyTripisCut]

You're talking about changing the bid process and completely wiping out parts of the master. That would require ups to go through the grievance procedures on a national level.

I would assume they would have to inform hall or something.

An arbitrator would have a field day if this is being implemented the way it says in this thread.

I have the feeling that he is in the same local as me. We don't bid routes, we bid start times. They can put you on ANY route any day of the week if they want in my building. Probably why they are gonna test it with us.

 

[Faceplanted]

For this to lawfully happen nation wide they either need to wait until 2018 or re negotiate.

I would be ashamed to be part of a local that only bid start times. Wtf is that?

 

[MyTripisCut]

What does your local supplement say?

Nothing good. Just read it. Only some cheesy holiday language.

 

[MyTripisCut]

For this to lawfully happen nation wide they either need to wait until 2018 or re negotiate.

I would be ashamed to be part of a local that only bid start times. Wtf is that?

Been that way here for a long long time brother.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Nothing good. Just read it. Only some cheesy holiday language.

I'm covered. Our language says if you started before 7/31/1990 you are a M-friend driver unless you choose otherwise.

 

[Faceplanted]

Been that way here for a long long time brother.

Great way for management to reward runners with cake routes and screw the grevience filers. Of course this would fall under "decisions best for the company" when the senior guy files. What a joke

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Been that way here for a long long time brother.

We bid routes every year.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Totally agree. My big worry is, what happens when peak rolls around and they just force everyone Mon-Sat. Might not be this year, but it will come as well, think about it.

Depending on the weather, I think we should all anticipate at least one Saturday during Peak.

 

[oldngray]

I'm covered. Our language says if you started before 7/31/1990 you are a M-friend driver unless you choose otherwise.

Until the next contract.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

What does your local supplement say?

Ours has language for an alternate work week schedule.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I have the feeling that he is in the same local as me. We don't bid routes, we bid start times. They can put you on ANY route any day of the week if they want in my building. Probably why they are gonna test it with us.

Seriously?

So basically you are all cover drivers?

That sucks.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Until the next contract.

That's in our local, I found that will change. So t be a tin if drivers with a seniority date before 7/31/90
Next contract.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Ours has language for an alternate work week schedule.

That's very vague. They can definitely find ways to screw you with wording like that.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

That's very vague. They can definitely find ways to screw you with wording like that.

I will post the language when I have a little more time but it is actually very clear cut.