Amazon workers trying to Unionize

[nWo]

I was just looking at a Contract from the UFCW Local 1996 in Atlanta. After 72 months of employment a clicklist employee at Kroger gets $14.00/hr. Courtesy Clerks top out at $9.00/hr . Also they pay insurance premiums and . So Imagine someone quitting a union job stocking shelves where he had to pay dues and made $12. And Amazon says hey will give you $15.50, comparable Insurance, similar vacation time. Plus you don't have to pay dues.

I can certainly understand if someone doesn't see the benefits of having a union. I don't agree with it. But I understand where they are coming from.

 

[Poop Head]

I was just looking at a Contract from the UFCW Local 1996 in Atlanta. After 72 months of employment a clicklist employee at Kroger gets $14.00/hr. Courtesy Clerks top out at $9.00/hr . Also they pay insurance premiums and *. So Imagine someone quitting a union job stocking shelves where he had to pay dues and made $12. And Amazon says hey will give you $15.50, comparable Insurance, similar vacation time. Plus you don't have to pay dues.

I can certainly understand if someone doesn't see the benefits of having a union. I don't agree with it. But I understand where they are coming from.

14/hr in 1996 would be 23.76/hour today

 

[nWo]

Amazon is hiring FT warehouse employees here for $17/hr. Benefits from day 1. UPS starts at $14.50 pt. have to wait 9 months for insurance. May take 5-10 years before you get an opportunity to be full time. I think this is what people are seeing when they vote against forming a union.

 

[Overpaid Union Thug]

Nearly all of our cradles are broken now. Hell, mine won't even charge anymore. It hardly matters though. Just hit MapMav on your way back to the truck and remember your sequence of turns and you can knock it out just as efficiently.

Taking care of them makes them last a long time. When drivers slam their DIADS into them they tend to stop working right. I’ve had mine since October. I had it replaced because the previous driver before I bid the route was a destructive slob. It wouldn’t charge and wouldn’t navigate half the time. Simply had the mechanic order a new one and fixed that problem.

 

[Red Devil]

14/hr in 1996 would be 23.76/hour today

I thought the same but he said Local 1996 not year 1996

 

[eats packages]

The union vote would be far more successful in a less marginalized area. Sucks that organizing works out that way but it's a symptom of how fear drives irrational behavior, and Amazon can capitalize on it with their anti-union efforts. If a union drive was attempted in a suburban, largely middle-cass, largely white building I'd bet my money they would win it easily.

 

[eats packages]

75% of UPS drivers are cry asses when they can make over 100k a year and just follow the cradle. It’s embarrassing.

Nearly all of our cradles are broken now. Hell, mine won't even charge anymore. It hardly matters though. Just hit MapMav on your way back to the truck and remember your sequence of turns and you can knock it out just as efficiently.

I can't stand the cradle or mapnav. The overthinking is actually therapeutic to me.

 

[I have been lurking]

The union vote would be far more successful in a less marginalized area. Sucks that organizing works out that way but it's a symptom of how fear drives irrational behavior, and Amazon can capitalize on it with their anti-union efforts. If a union drive was attempted in a suburban, largely middle-cass, largely white building I'd bet my money they would win it easily.

Where's such a place at now?

 

[Jones]

Where's such a place at now?

I can think of a couple off the top of my head.

 

[barnyard]

Another article I read suggested that they were getting $15/hr to start and full benefits on day 1. What more could union representation gotten them?? Work rules and a push for a safer work environment, but those are pretty nebulous things that many would see no benefit from.

Plus, Alabama is a RTW state that is hostile to unions. Not a great place to spend a ton of money trying to organize.

 

[clarnzz]

I can't stand the cradle or mapnav. The overthinking is actually therapeutic to me.

Yeah, I’ve been on my route long enough I could almost deliver it by name. It is handy if I have to help though.

 

[silenze]

Another article I read suggested that they were getting $15/hr to start and full benefits on day 1. What more could union representation gotten them?? Work rules and a push for a safer work environment, but those are pretty nebulous things that many would see no benefit from.

Plus, Alabama is a RTW state that is hostile to unions. Not a great place to spend a ton of money trying to organize.

They get 30 cent raise after a year. Then no more raises. After 2 years they get a bonus if they quit. Amazon wants high turnover

 

[Red Devil]

Another article I read suggested that they were getting $15/hr to start and full benefits on day 1. What more could union representation gotten them?? Work rules and a push for a safer work environment, but those are pretty nebulous things that many would see no benefit from.

Plus, Alabama is a RTW state that is hostile to unions. Not a great place to spend a ton of money trying to organize.

$16/hr starting pay and better benefits?

 

[AKCoverMan]

How much does Amazon contribute to a part time employee pension? Zero dollars per hour.

But the Amazon worker doesn’t care, only cares about this weeks paycheck. The average UPS Teamster has far more skin in the game. Although some people fail to see it, I believe there is a benefit not only to the employees but to the company by having a union work force who gives a poop.

 

[nWo]

They get 30 cent raise after a year. Then no more raises. After 2 years they get a bonus if they quit. Amazon wants high turnover

Tbf what do part timers at UPS get after a year? 50 cents?

 

[ManInBrown]

Amazing that these idiots voted to not unionize. Cause who the hell wants fair wages, and to be treated fairly. The teamsters have done a terrible job for UPS hourlies the last two contracts, but at the end of the day, if we didn’t have them, UPS would be paying us 12 bucks an hour.

 

[Jones]

Not sure why anyone is shocked, it's Alabama. They should have found a warehouse in NY or CA, probably would have won in a landslide.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

The teamsters have done a terrible job for UPS hourlies the last two contracts, but at the end of the day, if we didn’t have them, UPS would be paying us 12 bucks an hour.

 

[Seymour Packages]

It is the South, after all. Not a bastion of fair labor practices, solid pensions, or organized anything. They have made their bed, let them enjoy being discarded at the whim of a scumbag supervisor, impossible production metrics, and no sense of job security. Bless their ignorant hearts.

 

[AKCoverMan]

The no vote comes from workforce that is only concerned with this Friday’s paycheck, not long term security.